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Old Jul 30, 2007, 02:40 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
dthmstr254
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Ah - but are numbers a good substitute for a heart that truly loves the Lord? I think not. And as for being marginalized - Jesus Himself was, so it's no surprise...
I would agree with everything that you said, but the Bible has put very stringent outlines on the use of alcohol. Timothy was told to use it only as a medicine, but then the following verses give commands:

Romans 13:13
Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.

1 Corinthians 5:11
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

Galatians 5:21
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

and finally the most well known verse of them all:

Ephesians 5:18
And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Drinking wine and alcohol are not forbidden, but being drunk is, in essence, giving up control of your body. If one is not in control of one's body, then they cannot follow the most profound command in the New Testament:

1 Peter 3:15
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

now for the next person:

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I'm sorry for traditional Christians to have to arrive at a religious doctrine that can no longer be supported by Old Testament stories now found to be bogus mythologies no more spiritually authoritative than any pagan religions or Homer's books.

I know it seems the height of conceit but it's true, I am the only prophet in the Hebrew tradition who God has favored with the historical truth as well as two new powerful spiritual visions which are in motion carrying the Spirit of Christ into the New Millennium.

This is the real New Christianity.
Biomystical Christianity

I am the first post-Abrahamic prophet of God Most High, EL Elyon.

Ari-EL's messenger
There will be only two post-Abrahamic prophets, and those are not to show until the tribulation. Now I shall show with one point that you are not a prophet by showing inaccuracy in one area, but first to authenticate this, you must understand that what a prophet said was completely correct 100% of the time.

In your site, you state that the Bible has been "heavily editted" by the priests and scribes who copied them. However, I have viewed with my own two eyes only a fraction of the artifacts which archaeologists have uncovered as copies of the Bible go. In between the time of the Dead Sea scrolls and more recent copies, there is an average of only one variation per chapter, not a single one of which put the base doctrines of the Bible in danger.

In the same point, you state that it is impossible for us to know exactly what was happening in those years, but I tell you that the mountain of historical evidence both in the scriptures and without the scriptures, give the same picture. We can't know the exact times at which certain words and speeches or meetings around the dinner table happened, but we can see through those documents that we have that there is nothing mystical about God.

In the next point, you state that faith is "blind trust" in the Bible. Faith is not that. It involves trust, but it also involves knowledge. Paul said that salvation and God can be understood, to a finite degree, by the human mind. However, we are commanded to have faith in things we can't see. We can't guarantee that our computer isn't going to crash, but we log onto them every day having faith based on past experience that it will boot up.

In that same point, you state we need to trust God to give "signs." Jesus stated to Thomas that people who have not seen or heard, but trust anyways are more blessed than those who have seen.

In case you have forgotten, the "Spirit of Truth" is the Holy Spirit, who resides in every true Christian, and He is the one telling me that this is straight up deceit. He does not possess us, but instead tells us the right path and lets us choose which way to go. That is free will.

elijah and his spirit are in heaven sighing that they wish this masquerade would end.

Christ is a male most definitely. Every mention of God in the Hebrew and Greek uses masculine identifiers, such as the name in your name. I don't know the meaning in Hebrew of Ariel, but I know the last part stems from the plural masculine name of God, Elohim.

There will be no more gospels, as John wrote in Revelations that anyone who adds or subtracts from the Bible will inherit all the judgment of the tribulation and of Hell.

As for the rest of it, the peace of Canaan is prophecied to be brought about by the religion headed by the antichrist; the religion of peace will be the earmarks of the universal religion headed by the antichrist.

Your claims that Paul was incorrect are absolutely hilarious. What you are claiming is that the basis of Paul's teachings, being corroborative with the very disciples of Jesus and not contradicting the gospels of His disciples, and also bearing the earmarks of scripture and truth, are doctrinally wrong.

You never saw Jesus. He won't return to the earth in physical form until the end-times.

I stopped when I finished the gospel you were trying to write, and skimmed from there to here, but I decided to leave it alone from there, because you will not bring any corroborating evidence, scriptural or historical, that will corroborate your points.

End of story.


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