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Netopalis · Jul 29, 2007, 06:55 pm

Sorry, I've been rather busy, but I'm back and ready to respond to each of the comments directed towards me.

Christibe:
1) The fact that many don't like him, but don't know why is largely due to the media's portrayal of him. Comedians and TV personalities have pictured him as dumb, therefore causing Americans to think lowly of him as well, causing them to not like him. Even so, nobody's going to cite that as a reason.

2) I really don't believe that Jeb Bush caused GWB to be President. It wasn't Bush's final call. There were sketchy parts on Gore's part too, such as a supposedly missing ballot box that was full of supposed Gore votes found in a supporter's garage that many wanted counted. The insinuation that the Butterfly Ballot is confusing is, quite simply, ridiculous - it had been used for years without issue, and if a person can't follow an arrow and put a stick into a hole to mark their vote, then quite frankly, they probably don't have the mental capacity to have a voice in who should be the next President. As for the illuminati and masons, there has been no proof that either organization has influenced things. Show me proof and not mere speculation, and I might be more inclined to listen to you.

3) I agree that certain measures taken by the government recently make me nervous. That being said, most of these have been accomplished by Congress, not Bush, and we can't fault him for how Congress votes. Further, the much-talked about Democratic congress has done nothing to change matters in this regard (or, really, in any regard).

4) This last paragraph is rather unintelligible, but it appears to accuse Bush of subliminal messaging? There has been no proof that subliminal messaging is anything more than a hoax. Trust me, if we were living in a fascist government, we wouldn't even be able to have this conversation.

Nono:
If you're not going to hold Bush accountable for his grandfather's actions, why even bring it up? Why is it newsworthy? As for Mien Kampf, racism was a largely accepted position in the 1930s, and thus it was not seen as truly surprising. It wasn't until after the holocaust that the American people began to see the dangers of racism.

Billyobamba:
The person who makes the claim is the person who should be able to cite their sources - not the readers. It's not that I'm lazy, it's merely that it's not my job - it's yours. Nobody would ever submit a college term paper, a newspaper article or anything of the sort, and ask their readers to find the information that they cited on their own.

On your second post: Relevance?

Jul 29, 2007, 06:55 pm	#21 (permalink) (top)
Netopalis Peculiar. Location: Bluefield, WV Posts: 179	Sorry, I've been rather busy, but I'm back and ready to respond to each of the comments directed towards me. Christibe: 1) The fact that many don't like him, but don't know why is largely due to the media's portrayal of him. Comedians and TV personalities have pictured him as dumb, therefore causing Americans to think lowly of him as well, causing them to not like him. Even so, nobody's going to cite that as a reason. 2) I really don't believe that Jeb Bush caused GWB to be President. It wasn't Bush's final call. There were sketchy parts on Gore's part too, such as a supposedly missing ballot box that was full of supposed Gore votes found in a supporter's garage that many wanted counted. The insinuation that the Butterfly Ballot is confusing is, quite simply, ridiculous - it had been used for years without issue, and if a person can't follow an arrow and put a stick into a hole to mark their vote, then quite frankly, they probably don't have the mental capacity to have a voice in who should be the next President. As for the illuminati and masons, there has been no proof that either organization has influenced things. Show me proof and not mere speculation, and I might be more inclined to listen to you. 3) I agree that certain measures taken by the government recently make me nervous. That being said, most of these have been accomplished by Congress, not Bush, and we can't fault him for how Congress votes. Further, the much-talked about Democratic congress has done nothing to change matters in this regard (or, really, in any regard). 4) This last paragraph is rather unintelligible, but it appears to accuse Bush of subliminal messaging? There has been no proof that subliminal messaging is anything more than a hoax. Trust me, if we were living in a fascist government, we wouldn't even be able to have this conversation. Nono: If you're not going to hold Bush accountable for his grandfather's actions, why even bring it up? Why is it newsworthy? As for Mien Kampf, racism was a largely accepted position in the 1930s, and thus it was not seen as truly surprising. It wasn't until after the holocaust that the American people began to see the dangers of racism. Billyobamba: The person who makes the claim is the person who should be able to cite their sources - not the readers. It's not that I'm lazy, it's merely that it's not my job - it's yours. Nobody would ever submit a college term paper, a newspaper article or anything of the sort, and ask their readers to find the information that they cited on their own. On your second post: Relevance?