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Old Jul 28, 2007, 01:06 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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theco805 said:
I don't agree fully with saying that obesity is "socially contagious." But, I do somewhat follow their logical process here.
I do as well, but it is everything else about the presentation, the usage of the information, the way it is being framed to the people, that misconstrues what science is really there.

People are influenced by other people, and things they take in through their senses. THAT is the science involved, which we all know.

They are framing the information though, as some type of "proof" that if you associate or have friends that are obese, you may suddenly become obese EVEN if you don't alter your lifestyle otherwise. Its absurd.

We all control our own weight and fitness by lifestyle, eating habits, exercise and activity, individually.

Obesity is NOT contagious, nor is it a disease. Obesity can be in some cases, genetic, but it is neither a disease or contagious.

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theco805 said:
If you are around others who eat very little at times, I think you are somewhat pressured to eat less.
I would agree, but that is a controllable issue that is at the will of the individual, not some invisible hand of social pressure that can't be resisted or denied.

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theco805 said:
The same would go for eating more.
I would agree.

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theco805 said:
Furthermore, lifestyles of friends and those around you closest tend to be the same, if your friends work out I think you are more likely to as well.
I would agree, and I also agree that social influence plays "a role" in our actions individually, however, the individual has the ability to control these social distractions at will.

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theco805 said:
I could also see this issue leading to a debate on peer pressure and nature verses nurture....
Exactly. Another skewed collection of information being used to foist and perpetrate bad laws, bad precedents and over-reaching government into peoples lives and abilties to regulate their own intake.

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Pooey said:
If this is flawed science then please give me your own expert conclusions from the results.
I shouldn't have said "flawed science". I should have said flawed or mischiveious use of science, to effect political and social change based on myth.

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Pooey said:
Further more, where's the source of this text?
I thought I posted the source.....

Here are several stories about the study:
Obesity Is Contagious, Study Finds - TIME
Obesity Is Contagious, Study Finds - TIME
BBC NEWS | Health | Obesity 'contagious', experts say
And so on and so on: Obesity 'socially contagious,' study finds
Bulgaria: Obesity "Contagious", Study Shows
Obesity contagious among friends, US study shows - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Two Studies Show Obesity Stigma Is Contagious - Through the Sallyport

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Techno said:
In the first place being overwieght is not a disease or sickness in the physical sense.
I agree, as does science.

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Techno said:
However part of the phychological addictions to such things is because they are 'mediums' through which people bond.

When you sit down for a family meal it is a time for bonding, or if you "do lunch" with co-workers and so forth. Important events like Chirstmas often center around a big meal.
Agreed. All of these mediums are controllable however, by the partaking individuals.


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