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Quote by: Osborn Your argument here is bordering on childish semantics.

That's what laws are... semantics.

Quote by: Osborn You have the right to KEEP and BEAR arms. MY property is where arms that I own are stored, and my BODY is part of my property. I have a right to be secure in my property, as stated. "Property" and "secure" both play an integral role here.

I agree. So do you believe that you should be able to carry an armed and loaded SAM launcher on your person, if that is the arms which you choose to carry?

Quote by: Osborn I DEMAND PROOF OF THIS ABSURD STATEMENT!

Don't suggest I'm being childish and then "yell" for proof. See post #12. There is proof that at least one person, educated in how to use firearms, comfortable with firearms, owner of firearms, was intimidated by OC of a gun. He even states a scenario, in a park, where it would be threatening.

Quote by: Osborn I believe individual rights should be upheld at all costs.

Then why don't you believe that my rights to life, liberty, and PoH should be upheld by telling you to CC a gun?

Quote by: Osborn This is basic, fundamental property rights.

Then how come I can't leave my blinds open if I'm watching porn on my TV? There are plenty of restrictions on property rights when you and your property disturb the peace.

Quote by: Osborn So, if your neighbor feels threatened by swimming pools that are exposed to nature, does your neighbor have the right to FORCE you to cover your swimming pool with a shelter house at your own expense?

Don't suggest I'm being childish and then give "what-ifs" like this. A swimming pool is not carried on your person, nor is it a lethal weapon. But the law in some places does require that you cover your swimming pool, else you be legally responsible if someone sneaks onto your property and drowns in your pool.

Stupid, I know, but that's the law.

Quote by: Osborn Nonsense, and unprovable.

Post #12 again. The reason you can't dismiss that as "nonsense and unprovable" is because it's about personal opinion. So far, at least 2 people in this thread have said that it is their opinion.. That means you can't dismiss it as nonsense.

I'll put to you the same simple question that Kam has been so desperately avoiding...

How is requiring CC-only denying you your ability to carry a gun?

And no, Kam, you didn't answer the question. You're evading.