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Quote by: Kam How is this relevant?: Limiting the bearing of a gun is a violation of the right to bear them.

That's what the debate is about.

Quote by: Kam Meaning: Visible guns would preclude violence more than it would cause it. How is this relevant?: Self-evident.

This is not self-evident. You'll have to back this one up if you want me to accept it as true. Some kind of statistic that clearly states that, as you wrote, visible guns prevent more violence than it causes.

My basis for rejecting that is that police officers are armed yet people still shoot at them and otherwise engage in violence against them. As are members of the military. Yet it doesn't seem to prevent any violence at all. Thus my need for a valid statistic.

Quote by: Kam How is this relevant?: You have to prove that hiding guns bears any constitutional necessity.

Addressed in post #38.

Quote by: Kam How is this relevant?: It is not up to me to determine if a threat is deadly.

Yes, actually it is. Opening fire on a burglar in your home who is trying to leave with your television means, legally, that you thought he was a threat to your life. Remember, the 2nd Amendment states that you have a right to bear arms in defense of yourself. How is killing someone who is not threatening you with deadly force a defense of yourself?

Quote by: Kam How is this relevant?: "Disturbing the peace" is a bogus law, if used against someone upholding their constitutional right.

The problem is you think the law is bogus. But in doing so, you are acknowledging that that law exists. I explained this in post #38 as to what the problem is with "disturbing the peace" and how it relates to OC a fun.

Quote by: Kam Does the government have the right to legislate how you speak? What you speak of? Where you speak?

Yes, they do. I've given two examples in post #38.

You can freely distribute pamphlets stating that a nuclear bomb will be detonated in New York City the day after Election Day. If you incite a mass panic, it doesn't matter if you were advertising for Season One of Heroes coming out on DVD. What matters is that you exercised (not upheld) your right to free speech in a way that disturbed the peace.