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Old Jul 26, 2007, 02:41 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready
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ZNYFRH said:
It's not baiting, I'm just being honest.
Your expressing your opinion, which happens to be 180 degrees out from mine, and you are making non-sequitor and appeal to emotion arguments to combat logic.

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For every criminal you scare away, how many normal people do you scare away?
How does this matter to me again? Has this ever happened to me, scaring away so-called "normal" people?

Most normal people appreciate and respect people taking steps to avoid criminal activity taking place on or around their property. It has an uncanny way of affecting property values, perceived safety, general politeness.

Who would be scared away by less criminals seeking victims in an area known for armed citizens?

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Why should the rest of us have to live in fear?
In fear of what? I can't control your irrational or un-copeable fears, that is your job as an individual.

Normal people fear violent criminals, not gun owners. Gun owners are the people who stop violent criminals, a lesson we learned long ago which led to armed policeman.

I think you fear your peers to a level of questionability, probably based on the levels of extreme you know of, or fear in yourself, if you happen to have an ever present fear of guns in your daily life.

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You might say that we should carry a gun, too.
You have the right to do so, or not do so. Your choice.

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So why live in fear of a gunfight?
Why live in any kind of fear? Deal with your fears, don't succumb to them.

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If someone is willing to pull the trigger, there is nothing I can do to stop it.
Its your choice to ascribe to that theory, but many don't, and have saved their lives, and the lives of others by using armed defense.

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Otherwise, they can take my wallet or cell phone or whatever. It's not worth me dying... and not worth taking their life either.
What if they want to sodomize you, your family, your grandma, and her cats? What if they want to torture you, because in their irrational perception of reality you form the perfect picture and example of everything they hate in the world? What if there "desires" can't be satiated and still spare your life? What if "they" is the government, and "they" are at your door to take you off to the "showers" for delousing in preparation for working you until you die, if they don't exterminate you first?

That is why the people of this nation reserve and observe the right to keep and bear arms, and why you still have a country.


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