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Quote by: Yarn Israel has nukes ("Estimates for Israel's nuclear weapons stockpile range from 70 to 400 warheads. The actual number is probably closer to the lower estimate. Additional weapons could probably be built from inventories of fissile materials.")

That is exactly why Israel can't be taken out without a huge lose of Arab and Persian (not too mention Israeli) lives. The Arabs and Persians need to face the fact that Israel is there and they have to work towards a solution instead of continuing the problem.

You can't get rid of Israel without it killing millions of Arab and/or Persians civillians first, assuming it carries ammorality in preserving itself when under true threat, which I think it does. "It is widely reported that Israel had two bombs in 1967, and that Prime Minister Eshkol ordered them armed in Israel's first nuclear alert during the Six-Day War. It is also reported that, fearing defeat in the October 1973 Yom Kippur War, the Israelis assembled 13 twenty-kiloton atomic bombs." Nuclear Weapons - Israel I don't think getting rid of Israel is worth the destruction of a bunch of major Arab Cities and capitals, and all the people who live in them. Do you? I don't even think we will ever get to the point wherein regardless of what they are willing to sacrifice, the Muslim nations which oppose Israel's existence, will ever get the capability of getting rid of Israel, as long Israel remains supported by the US. To speak of Iran specifically. Iran has no way of even reaching it with ground forces, without them being destroyed by the Israeli airforce enroute, Iran has missles, but Israel has an AMS system designed to counter those missles, which it claims to be confident of, certainly said missles, if they hit their marks, could hurt Israel, but they couldn't destroy it without nukes. Nuke use would mean nuclear response, and destruction of all major Iranian cities. Israel Stresses Anti-Missile Test Message To Iran If Iran attacked first it would face an International response which might cripple its economy, and in any circumstance, Iran has no away of denying Israel air superiority over its land, would consequently be helplessly bombarded.

Great assessment of what another war could lead to.

I will agree with that given the mass impoverishment it has created, the lives it has taken directly, and the animosity it has created between much of the Middle East and the West, Israel should never have been created in Palestine, and should not be there today. However, you get the best possible world by pursueing the best possible world, not the best world. To pursue the best world is to be impractical, and enact an reality which is inferior to what it could be.

Maybe the Arabs should have taken the land from the Jews when they were on the Arab crusade!

The US in my opinion should force Israel to take its settlements out of the west bank and try to reduce the bad humanitarian impacts of its military operations.

The US should no do anything until the other side (Arabs and Palestines) show a willingness to move toward peace.

Israel isn't going away, and a two state solution is the only way Palestine will be a nation again.

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Israel may not have destroyed Hezbollah in 06, but regardless, the Lebonese people suffered greatly. It didn't destroy Hamas in 06, but the Palestinian people suffered greatly. Attacking Israel only invokes it to harm people. Why do it?

The reason the Lebanese people suffered is because the Hezbollah terrorist cowards hide within the civilians and use them as shield to increase collar damage. The Lebanese only have Hezbollah to blame.

Iran should come to grips with reality on this issue

Just like the American people are coming to grip with Iraq. I think the Iranian people are coming to grip with this issue also. But like Bush, Alma-douchebag only chooses what he believes to see.

It is funny, historically the Persian have been the best to the Jews of any people. They freed the Jews from the Assyrians and Babloyians and let them built the 2nd temple. Then they help the Jews fight the Byzantine Empire and regain very temporary automony (although the is controversy on who betrayed who) before the Arab Crusaders took over.

In fact they had diplomatic relations until the 1979 Islamic Revolution. Even after that Israel supplied arms during the Iran-Iraqi war. And before Alam-douchebag - Khatami was much less hostile. Maybe after Alam-douchebag, Israel and Iran can forge at least non-hostile relations.