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Old Jul 18, 2007, 03:01 pm   #33 (permalink) (top)
Rainbow
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To me, it sounds more like "Thanks for your help and all.... but you're wearing out your welcome.... you don't mind takin off eh? You know.... when you're ready and all.... it would be greatly appreciated."

But the way you worded your comment above.... it almost sounds like you guys get to make the final rulings in everything.... Iraq isn't your country, nor was it ever your country.... They didn't want you guys there in the first place, and they really don't want you there now..... You guys didn't help a dam thing, and you made their way of life far worse then it ever was under Saddam's rule.... and you claim that you guys will take this as "When we're ready to leave we'll leave, when it suits us."

You guys are not the World Police and as soon as you realize this, perhaps less countries would want to see your destruction....

You can't just waltz into a country AKA: Invade.... take out their leader, shove some democratic government they have no clue how to operate in their faces, and say we'll stay until we think things are in our best interests and expect it all to work in two or three years. When the British Empire did this, they prepared for at least a century of ocupation with many more troops then what you guys supplied.... you bit way more off then you can chew in this situation.

You guys seem so worried about a Civil War breaking out and all kinds of people dieing.... isn't that how your country was built? Isn't that how you guys made progress towards Democracy?

Now you guys are trying to pull some short term backwards British Empire trick on them, for the sake of Democracy and freedom, staying in their country until they understand it themselves, and to prevent them from starting a civil war, all the while expecting them to come to a more peaceful solution then what you guys did in the past?

The only reason why you guys are staying in there, is because you all know this democracy will not work, they will change it to what suits them, which most likely be an Islamic State, and if you want them to be Democratic, then isn't it their democratic right to vote and change their government to something not Democratic?

If they don't keep this Democratic government, your government will be afraid that it will show the rest of the Islamic countries that Democracy can and will fail.... in a location that was doomed to fail to begin with. And if Iraq goes back to the way it was, or at least chooses an Islamic style government, then in your eyes, the mission was a failure...... it was doomed to fail from the begining and all those soldiers who have died, have been for nothing..... which is quite sad.
#1
You are entitled to your own opinion, always. That is the sense of freedom of speech, expression, etc.

#2, #3, #4, #5, #6
I sense you want to express some of your thoughts.

#7, #8
Here it is a partial and/or full list of those Who care for so-called democracy :
- kids in kindergarten
- some idealism-inspired individuals
- politicians, for several reasons like : to be re-elected and/or force some concepts to be approved and/or accepted, etc.
Democracy is the "Ideological Altar" that serves as a fundament for every single state that has choosen to "practice" that form of political system.

U.S. wants to establish pro-Western Iraqi government. It would ensure that Middle-East region is stabilized, what prompts steady and safe oil supplies. That is quite all about Iraq (not to mention other issues like : intelligence, military bases, economy, marketing, etc.).

Who cares whether Iraq is Islamic and/or non-Islamic state ? Maybe you.
The most important factor is : pro-Western
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