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Quote by: Chaossaber314  It's not irrelevant because when we pull out of Iraq I don't want to have to go back 4-5 years down the road because it turns out they can't handle what they said they could and it's already our responsibility for making it that way. |
Yeah well as you said, you guys started the crap over there.... if things come back your way in the future, you have nobody else to blame but yourselves and the leader you followed. If Iraq fails in this, you can't blame them, because at least they tried a different approach from whatever lame mission you guys think is working.
You're mission there already has no direction, has no end, no sucesses, and adding more troops hasn't worked has it? Bush has no real plan.... he just asked for us all to give it a chance to work......
WHAT TO WORK? To what end? All that's going on is a pile of US troops policing Iraq.... that's it.... and they're being killed daily.
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The other thing is just because I say that if my girlfriend became pregnant I could get a second job and we could scrape by and survive, doesn't mean I want my girlfriend to get pregnant. Talking about contingencies doesn't mean you want to use them.
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So if Iraq says they no longer need your assistance, you guys are gonna say "Oh they don't mean that, we'll stay?"
Come on now.
Maybe what is needed in Iraq is for them to have relations with Iran.... or some other muslim country there..... apparently working with you guys has failed miserably.... perhaps working with another country which understands them, and who won't attempt to place on them some forign government, like a democracy, or whathaveyou..... they might stop their fighting.
The core of the fighting is that one faction feels that the other faction has the US influencing them and trying to ruin their way of life, and vice versa.... remove the forign influences and they might actually solve their problems.......
What's going on in Iraq could easily be compared to a pile of elementary students giving the subtitute teacher a living hell and to prove that they don't want him or her, but want their original teacher..... it's an act of defiance towards the US, their invasion, their occupation and the removal of the leader they knew....... keeping Iraq unstable until you leave is probably their plans from day one...... just to prove that they wern't just gonna suck up whatever you guys fed them.
I know for sure that if the US was invaded by another country, occupied, your leaders removed and the invading force tried to impose a different form of government, you guys would insurge, and make sure their plans failed..... it's simple patriotism on their part..... yeah they're killing each other, but their ways are not our ways, and you or I can not expect them to understand, or vice versa.
You guys figured they would want Saddam out of there, that you could make their lives better..... but those faults you all saw, they were a part of their everydays lives, they didn't care.......
It's the exact same thing as another country invading you guys because they see the poor, the rich, unequality, and injustices that you guys complain about everyday, poor healthcare, high crime rates, etc..... to them it seems like something serious, but to you guys.... it's just everyday life, you just like to complain sometimes. Just because you guys have all kinds of things to complain about, doesn't mean you would give up your country..... so why should you expect them to do the same?
Pull Out!