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Quote by: Zeebadee  So you're advocating staying in Iraq until we achieve "victory"? Has "victory" been defined yet? Will that be when we have an Iraqi government that can stand on it's own, or when we have an Iraqi government that the U.S. approves of that can stand on it's own?
Why do you assume that it's an American loss of "will" that is fueling the drive to bring our troops home? Perhaps it's merely the becoming-more-clear-everyday perception that we can't win instead. Accepting reality and knowing when to quit is NOT the same as a loss of will. |
What I am advocating is that we do not fully withdraw and throw in the towel, hoping that something positive blooms from chaos or allowing these same terrorists room and reason to grow unobstructed. and obviously, dropping bombs on terrorist camps hoping to eliminate them has never been very effective. I have understood since the beginning of the Iraq War that this was not the correct move for our Country. Understandably the ill feelings that brings forth can easily sway someone to say "Why are we there?" "what sense does it make to stay there since it was just some devious plot by some power hungry politicians" "what good can come of it" those are all valid, questions. You can check any of my posts that I have made over the past 4 -5 years (whether here or in my blog at my site) and you will see that I have yet to support the foundation and basis of this war. However, if you had to just erase everything up to this date and had to re-examine what the best options were at this very point. Like me, I believe you will find that complete withdraw is a futile desicion.
So then what do we do? the great continental divide debate?
I dont think we need to define victory in order to continue to confront these terrorists on there home turf. If we just withdraw, the images of Iraq that you are now so commonly used to on the news will actually be occuring right in your back yards. the only positive thing about complete withdrawl is the fact that we will be needing our troops at home when a dirty bomb or other great massacre happens in our back yards so we can then go into marshall law - much like Iraq. But I recognize that we must now emplore those around the world to step up in concert with us to put the pressure upon them. In turn that means then we could be able to bring a large portion of our troops home while securing our own borders. By not carrying the brunt for safety around the world alone upon our shoulders, we will be able to cut back our spending. Is there not a motivating reason for countries around the world to put forth more effort to try and eliminate this global threat. Isnt that the Victory.
As far as how to do that? Perhaps we should impeach both the president and vice president for the treachery that they have caused. This would show are allies that we do not condone the actions that have occured (which shunned them away from this endeavor in the first place.). Furthermore, we will then be able to take back all of those new executive powers that the white house has created giving us some of our basic civil liberties back.
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Quote by: Zeebadee Why do you assume that it's an American loss of "will" that is fueling the drive to bring our troops home? |
It isnt that difficult to tell if you did a little research.