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Old Jul 14, 2007, 03:01 am   #111 (permalink) (top)
shrike
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Except that the majority of the land acquired by the Jews weren't through individual purchases but by the 1947 partition of the "Palestinian" territory and then armed invasion of places like the West Bank and the Gaza.
The Partition was done by UN.Arabs didnt accept it and invaded newly created state.And what invasion "West Bank and the Gaza" are you talking about? All the Jews that lived there were ethnically cleansed.


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"Henceforth the term Palestinian will be used when referring to the Arabs of the former mandated Palestine, excluding Israel. Although the Arabs of Palestine had been creating and developing a Palestinian identity for about 200 years, the idea that Palestinians form a distinct people is relatively recent. The Arabs living in Palestine had never had a separate state. …"
Palestine :: The term "Palestinian" -- Encyclopaedia Britannica
Nothing about Syria here.
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"The term Palestine is derived from the name of the Philistines, a people of uncertain origins, possibly Aegean, who, in the 12th century BCE, settled along the southern Mediterranean coastal plain of what is now Israel and the Gaza Strip and disappeared several centuries later. After crushing Bar Kokhba's revolt (132-135), the Romans Latinized the hitherto seldom-used Greek name Palaestina (Παλαιστίνη) and applied it to the entire region that had formerly included Iudaea Province (which combined Judea, Samaria, and Idumea). To Jews, the name had connotations of past conflicts. This was done to send a message to any remaining Jewish rebels that they were no longer the owners of the land. The Arabic toponym Filastin (فلسطين) is derived from this name[...] Before the establishment of the British mandate (see below), most of the area that is today Jordan was part of the Ottoman Vilayet of Syria."

Definitions of Palestine and Palestinian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So the territory (not the country) was called Palestine and even that was a foreign name given by Greeks and Romans to non-arabs. Then the country was known as Syria for 400 years until the Imperialist English decided to call it Palestine when it was not considered a country per say
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It was know by Land of Israel by many people for 3000 years.And why the Ottaman is authority?



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You're right, Jews weren't kicked out of Yemen or Saudi Arabia. I made a mistake.

"The political conflict between Muhammad and the Arab Jewish tribes of Medina in the 7th century, however, left ample ideological fuel for Islam and anti-Semitism through the centuries. During the Middle Ages, however, Jews typically had a better status in the Muslim world than in Christendom, where at many times they were welcomed and provided safe haven during times of persecution of Jews by Christians. Nevertheless, as the Muslim empire expanded during the centuries, particularly in what today is the Arab world, the status of non-Muslim communities was at times precarious, and they were generally subject to dhimmi laws. These laws freed them from military service and paying zakah, but placed additional jizyah and land taxes on them."
Jew - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They could just as easily have immigrated from Ethiopia to Yemen.
It happened much more latter then first-second century.


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Wait, you say that Jewish saying that Israel is their home land is justice enough to say that Israel is their root country, but their own holy testaments are not proof of roots to Egypt?
There is enough historical and archeological evidence about Jewish country in Israel. Bible is not history book.



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Yeah, Israelis "bought" the West banks, the Gaza Strip and the 1947 UN partition of the country....
What are you talking about? There were majority of Jews in a partitioned Jewish state that demanded their independence. Also read about Israel Independence war so you will spout nonsense about Gaza and West Bank.

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...So not bought by the Jews. England is still an integral part of the American culture. It gave them their language, their religion and so on. What my parents say to me before I go to bed is justice for all of this? I think not.
No you didn’t praise England every day and you didn’t dream about returning England during 2000 years. You lost you English identity by becoming American. Anyway Zionism was the only option to the Jews for their self-identification. No one wanted to accept them as equal. So only in their own state they could be free from prosecution.
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