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Old Jul 13, 2007, 07:21 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
Scribbler1
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In all fairness, anything beyond an axiom can be taken as an "OPINION", even what you just said there. I don't see it as a relevant point against my "OPINION".
You said "It's not like the death penalty would solve the problem of quality/security standards in China and it's not like it would even deter crime or negligence. China just wants to show foreign buyers that they have "dealt" with the problem." Which may or may not be correct. But as an OPINION, unsupported by facts it is not really a debatable point.
You don't know what kind of deterrent it would be and you don't know if they executed him to impress us.
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Negligence can be a crime.
Apparently so, and they dealt with it. Again, it was for BRIBERY and it was about drugs sold in China, NOT in the United States.
If the Chinese wanted to execute the person responsible for tainted food, they would have SAID it was for that reason, wouldn't they?
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Apparently it works. I don't see any trade embargoes against Chinese made food. As a matter of fact, half of my dry storage of food is of Chinese origin
You have provided nothing to show there is ANY connection.
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So he accepted BRIBES to be NEGLIGENT in his job. Bribes occur all the time in China. Unless it's of a very very very large sum, then it's no grounds for execution unless they have another political agenda behind their actions.
And what do you have to show that there is another agenda?
Again, it is a very serious crime and they dealt with it in their own way. It doesn't affect us, so I fail to see the reason we should think it does.
Don't get me wrong. I have no use for the government of Communist China but I'm dealing with the points you have brought up.
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If you live in a country with a judicial system, it's about you also.
No it isn't. The judicial systems in our country is different. We cannot force the Chinese to adopt our system any more than they can force us to adopt theirs.
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My main point is that the judicial system shouldn't make decisions based on what your anger feels.
I'm not angry in the least, and even if I was it wouldn't compel the Chinese to do anything about it based on my personal feelings. Which is why I see it as an internal matter.
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So what if you feel he deserves to die? Is that all you care about? Or do you care if it happens again or not?
I don't care either way. I don't have the power to force China to play nice. I think that's the job of the Chinese to do that.
As far as him deserving to die, while it might be a little excessive, he DID take a bag full of yuan and the result was many Chinese dying because of that. When people die it becomes much more than simple bribery.
This isn't about selling defective shoes.


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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