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Quote by: Technosoul According to Gallo in one of his lastest [???] posts - "science has no proof".

Not sure why you threw this in since it doesn't follow from anything before, and isn't followed up for a couple of paragraphs. Another example of your disjointed thinking?

Quote by: Technosoul ...you leave the door wide open when you (they) promote the philosophy that science has no proof for their ideas, or that they are still seeking the answers for the big questions.

Again you demonstrate that you don't understand. First of all, scientists don't give a rat's tootie about what "they" think. To claim "proof" would be silly in the extreme. What would a scientist then do when a theory that was claimed to have been proven wash shown to be wrong. The scientific illiterates already think that the fact that scientific theories are changed to accommodate new data. But of course, creationists and scientific illiterates think that science searches for unchanging truth.

Quote by: Technosoul That will only give them reason to say "It's just a theory".

But you do that any way. It shows ignorance in the extreme to make such claims. Anyone who has bothered to educate himself about the matter knows that a scientific theory is more secure than any faith based mythology.

Quote by: Technosoul You need to stress more that you are not just having faith in a random collection of evidence that must be put together - as time goes on.

Why? Scientists know that. Anytime anyone who understands science takes the time to talk with scientific illiterates, they usually try to explain how science works. And yet, you still carry on like you do.

Quote by: Technosoul You must instill more confidence in the ideas.

By what means? By lying about what science is and how it works so that it becomes simple enough for you to understand. Science doesn't prove things. It explains them with theories that have been tested.

Quote by: Technosoul Meanwhile the chruch [???] people say "we are not shoeless, all God's children have shoes". To survive science needs to redeate [???] the same kind of confidence - or loose points in the polls of public opinon [???].

To survive? In other words, science needs to lie about what the purpose, forget about science, and support the christian Taliban? We need to force everyone into a lockstep dogma about naturalism. While there is a spirit of anti-science in this country that tries to suppress anything that conflicts with a narrow view of christianity, I think that science will survive. Maybe when we reach the christian goal of a third world nation the christian Taliban will be thrown out.

Quote by: Technosoul But my points are not totally about religion vs science. My concern is about something else. My beef is that some scientists view nature like objects, like dice being tossed on the ground - and not as a logical system that contains consciousness as part interlocking factors that should be investigated. I think they fear that step because someone might call it disigner [???] creationism by a creator god. We must overcome that blockage and move past it so that fear of religion does not become a scientific superstition.

Actually, scientists don't care much about what religion claims. Only when religion pretends to be science in an effort to impose religion on everyone through the schools. Other than that, your last paragraph was mostly gibberish.

Quote by: Technosoul Can you comprehend that reasoning?

I didn't actually see any reasoning.

Quote by: Technosoul I am not coming out of my shell, I was hatched a long time ago.

And you seem as anti-science as ever.

Quote by: Technosoul You had a pre-established opinon [???] that I favor Creationism because of another post I did for the fun of it.

I think that you favor creationism because of your unwillingness to learn about science in favor of the creationist ideas you post.

Quote by: Technosoul So you objective is to prove me wrong because I might be a creationist.

Not mine. I merely point out when you are wrong and why you are wrong. That your ideas are typical of creationists has nothing to do with it.

Quote by: Technosoul Fear not. I don't care how I got here personally.

That could be your problem. Perhaps you should care. Perhaps you should look into learning before you speak.

Quote by: Technosoul Although I think I have a secret objective to promote alternative thinking (outside of the box) so that we can enjoy fresh ideas instead of just munching on stale ideas.

Your ideas aren't fresh and are irrelevant. Your fantasies are worse that mythology. Mostly, they make no sense. Daydreaming about scientific things is not scientifically valid when you are a scientific illiterate.

Quote by: Technosoul (if you must know that - I wish not of appear dishonest in that reguard [???]).

Try harder. You often do appear dishonest.