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Quote by: Marilyn Monroe What's the US population?

According to the US Census Bureau 2005 update, 288,378,137.

Quote by: Marilyn Monroe I don't know of hardly any hetero families where one stays home, unless they are disabled or unskilled, but most have children.

Of the 181,689,503 males and females living together in a married family household, 78,683,796 of them don't have kids.

Of the 181,689,503 males and females living together in a married family household, 41,587,567 females and 13,142,391 males are not in the labor force.

Quote by: Marilyn Monroe I didn't single you out. I said most everyone is selfish. That's just how people are. We are survivors.

I think your concept of "selfishness" speaks more about your beliefs, assumptions, and opinions than it does about "everyone".

Quote by: Marilyn Monroe Gays want equal benefits when they have a relationship.

When the relationship conditions are equal, correct.

Quote by: Marilyn Monroe I would bet most are elderly. Most young people are working.

According to the Census, only 1,425,181 people age 65 and above are not in the labor force.

Quote by: Marilyn Monroe I was going by the 40 years of working plus say 18 when you started. That would make you at least 58. That would be 4 years from collecting SS.

I was an industrious young lad, earning money which required the reporting of taxes at age 12.

Quote by: Marilyn Monroe It's easier for people with no kids to have a nice nest egg. So, you want more people to get "tax breaks"? The government runs on money, and all the social programs need money. More people getting "tax breaks" means less money, so what will happen? Raise taxes.

Ah, so you don't care if American citizens meeting the same tax criteria are treated unequally. Well, at least you are living up to your "selfish" estimation of others. Of course, there are other options besides raise taxes. We could simply eliminate the "married filing jointly" tax break for married couples without children. That would give the government plenty of cash to run on, and level the playing field. I can't wait to hear the tantrum you'll throw at that suggestion.

Quote by: Marilyn Monroe I thought you said you had to entertain his guests to aid his business that he was starting. I made a mistake, sorry.

Apology accepted.

Quote by: Marilyn Monroe There are times when situations will be the same, no doubt about it, but I was thinking that most heteros do have children, so the true reason for marriage is securing property for those children, but it goes to the other parent or adult to take over. Usually, but I don't know gays either had a spouse who will get the kids, in a gay situation, I don't know how they work that, but that needs to be worked on to safeguard any children involved.

Here you are trotting out the "kids" trojan again, when the numbers above clearly suggest there are a LOT of childless married couples.

Quote by: Marilyn Monroe There are no truly equal conditions.

That's code for "I'm selfish, leave my special tax break alone."

Quote by: Marilyn Monroe Yep. They also go into a higher tax bracket with two incomes many times.

No doubt. But that's not what we're talking about here, remember? Single income, no kids.

Quote by: Marilyn Monroe It will lead to a decrease in benefits for everyone, and an increase in Social Security taxes. Companies don't want to give benefits as it is, and singles are definitely discriminated on when it comes to insurance, but letting there be even more spouses will cause companies to have to cut some benefits or increase what the employee pays. You know it will have some effect, it would have to. Benefits can kill companies. Look at the US car manufacturers. Benefits are a big part of their problem. There is no totally fair way for everyone and you know it. It will change if the people want it to, probably. Sometimes government does what it wants to.

You're simply amplifying your notion that everyone is "selfish" again, uninterested in what's fair and just.