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Quote by: texasdave  Marilyn Monroe,
Very few women die in childbirth. And saying saggy boobs and stretch marks are damage is just stupid. And vain. Would you like to know how much damage abortion causes? Some women who have abortions are unable to conceive afterwards. Others are killed by the procedure. The vast majority are emotionally scarred. And that's just the damage to the woman. The unborn child is always killed. And not just that child but every human being that that unborn child would have ever conceived. Abortion kills babies and destroys generations. We have murdered 47 million of our own citizens since 1973. Want to know why Social Security is insolvent? Because it was designed to work with a growing population and its framers never even dreamed in the 30's that abortion would come along 40 years later. So we have killed 47 million taxpayers PLUS the children they would have had so add maybe another 10 million or so that are gone from the tax roles. Abortion, therefore, endangers the elderly who live on Social Security. They will have to absorb reduced benefits to keep the system solvent AND we'll all have to pay higher taxes. Guess what? That harms you! That harms the women you supposedly want to help with providing abortion. That harms born children. Congratulations abortion supporters you are part of the problem with Social Security. Thanks a lot. |
Texasdave, this is the most absurd argument I have ever seen in two years of online debate on this issue. It makes me cringe to even try to respond to this, but since I think anyone who is willing to formulate an argument deserves at least some response, let me see what I can do.
First of all: the population has been growing since Roe v. Wade. Check the census. U.S. population in 1970 was around 200 million, now it is around 300 million.
Secondly: the problem with social security is most definitely NOT that there are too few taxpayers, it is that there are too many claimants. Too many people living longer than they were supposed to when social security was originally put into place, as the average lifespan is about ten years longer now than it was then. People's benefits are figured for a lifespan of about 70-75 years, or about ten years after retirement -- and we are living to 85, or twenty years after retirement. There would be enough coming in, but there's too much going out.
Thirdly: while you're right that abortion can occasionally cause serious health problems, pregnancy and childbearing is more dangerous.
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The risk of abortion complications is minimal; fewer than 0.3% of abortion patients experience a complication that requires hospitalization.
Abortions performed in the first trimester pose virtually no long-term risk of such problems as infertility, ectopic pregnancy, spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) or congenital malformation (birth defect), and little or no risk of preterm or low-birth-weight deliveries.
Exhaustive reviews by panels convened by the U.S. and British governments have concluded that there is no association between abortion and breast cancer. There is also no indication that abortion is a risk factor for other types of cancer.
In repeated studies since the early 1980s, leading experts have concluded that abortion does not pose a hazard to women’s mental health.
The risk of death associated with abortion increases with the length of pregnancy, from one death for every one million abortions at or before eight weeks to one per 29,000 at 16–20 weeks—and one per 11,000 at 21 or more weeks.
The risk of death associated with childbirth is about 12 times as high as that associated with abortion. |
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Facts on Induced Abortion in the United States
And by the way, let me also say that the offer to pray for your opponents is not only horribly condescending, in that you are saying that you are blessed and we are damned, but it also implies that any salvation we may be able to hope for will come from you and not from our own repentance and/or prayers, which puts you on a level with, well, God. Pretty danged offensive, IMO.