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Quote by: StrongHeartsWin Meat eaters don't want that. They vote with their dollars.

Well I do. If I'm part of a freakish minority, then so be it. This debate is about ethics.

Quote by: StrongHeartsWin Vegetarians as a percentage of their group are much less likely to die from obesity related disease. By being a vegetarian one is more likely to eat healthier foods. Vegetarians vote with their wallets, too, when they purchase healthy foods, such as veggies, fruits, nuts, etc... We are just outnumbered by those of you meateaters who vote with your wallets and have been transforming our landscape into fast food meat -- which shows us, that as a group, or a large percentage of your group, wants.

I honestly don't care about what you said there. If your new argument at the table is throwing blankets of blame, then stop. A healthy diet is one that is balanced, and that includes the consumption of meat.

Quote by: StrongHeartsWin And how will you do that? Create an association or group? I would bet there are already some, but have they been successful in gaining any kind of momentum? I don't think so because the fast food industry and the factory farms are still well entrenched, if not growing -- along with the ever increasing growth of obesity and diet related problems, almost on the verge of being labeled an epidemic.

So I see your focus leaving from the typical ethical/health argument that veges make, and then questioning the practicality of the world following a healthy omnivorus diet. Not a healthy sign in itself that you are making headway.

Quote by: StrongHeartsWin Agreed. Perhaps affluence leads to gluttony.

Blame the gluttons, not the meat.

Quote by: StrongHeartsWin Though, I would say try vegetarianism. Experiment with it. Or perhaps make certain days vegetarian. How about "Meatless Mondays" or a "Meat Fast Friday"?

Do you honestly think omnis eat meat all the time, day in, day out??? I do stir fry and rice or spaghetti most nights, and throw some beef or lamb in when I feel like it. Stop treating all the meat eaters like a bunch of extremist idiots.

Quote by: StrongHeartsWin I think a lot of meat eaters are afraid that if they give up meat then they will be depriving themselves of delicious food. But that just isn't the case. After getting used to cooking vegetarian and experimenting with spices and other flavorings, you may find that a whole new world of delicious eating awaits you. All I can say is, keep an open mind.

Oh my god. Unlike you, I enjoy eating from a variety of food groups. If that's unhealthy, then I am, a vast majority of the world, and nutritionsts are, ignorant fools. I guess the eskimos are pretty stupid for managing to survive off a diet almost purely comprised of fish.

Keep an open mind? Coming from a vege, to omnis???

Quote by: StrongHeartsWin And for those of you who were once vegetarians but backslided back to eating meat, just try again.

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