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Old Jun 9, 2007, 07:32 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Mules are limited by nature, and are inferior to man due to natures limitations, which is why man treats mules as property.

Cars are products of man, and are tools, by design.

Man is unique in both natural physical ability (opposing thumbs), the ability for logic and reason, which has lead to language, farming, science and technology, to RISE ABOVE violence or force, as well as mans ability to move far past natural instinct using logic and reason.

Nothing else does this, that has near mans abilities, on earth.

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Slavery by force, is always wrong, unless in defense or punishment for rights violation of others by said individual.
1) Opposing thumbs is hardly an attribute that guarantees moral value. Perhaps the capabilities that come from those thumbs, but certainly not the thumbs themselves.
2) Logic and reason are human tools as much as a trunk is an elephant's tool, blood-seeking capabilities are the shark's tool, and wings are the bird's tools. Distinguishing one characteristic of man from any characteristic of any other creature is simply anthrocentric; you make us distinct from the other races first, and assume that our traits are thus superior.
3) There's nothing about violence that makes it intrinsically better to rise above it. Assuming violence is bad since it would take away the integrity of individual rights quite obviously begs the question, since I don't see liberty as an inalienable right of any creature, let alone humanity.
4) Our ability to go past natural instict is chiefly the result of our "advanced" brain development; we can store memories and information in our brains instead of our DNA. This, however, is simply the result of evolution. Once DNA reaches a certain capacity, the advantages of adding additional information are superceded by the disadvantages of increasing numbers of deadly mutations and errors in the copying process (think of DNA as a giant stack of papers that have to go through a copying machine; the more paper and staples and packets and procedures, the more room for error). The solution was to add information not through DNA at birth but through brains throughout the organism's life.
Taking a natural process of diverging species as a moral mandate of intrinsic worth is hardly substantive.


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The only moral and right thing to all people, is to allow all people the chance to choose for themselves, to the point it infringes on another rights to do the same, without the use of force being a factor.
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Free-will, voluntary mutual conscent, is the only morally acceptable and "right" to all persons regardless of beliefs, morals or philosophy, since they chart their own existence based on their own choices, skills, needs, desires and abilties.
Once again, begging the question that people should have choice and liberty in the first place. The OP is clearly against that position, what with legitimizing slavery and all.
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