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Old Jun 7, 2007, 05:27 am   #29 (permalink) (top)
Kuldeep
Kuldeep
 
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Biggest Reality!!!!!! ?????????

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Well all the more power to you on that... I wasn't telling you to take it..... you asked, I responded in honesty.
Anyway thanks for both!

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Here's a question...... what doesn't affect nerves and brain function? If we eat, drink, take our vitamins, run, swim..... anything and everything around us in this world affects our minds and bodies in some degree or another.
True, but some intakes, accidents make a person insane at least for some period of time. Persons become socially incompatibles. Honestly speaking, it is very difficult to explain what is sane and what is insane, normal and abnormal. Well we take what society calls normal, to remove confusion.

My desire is to be normal from that point of view, as well as know the reality! That is not possible because as normal I would remain an Individual but on knowing the reality I would turn universal!

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People drink to get drunk, people smoke to reduce stress, people drink coffee to wake up..... people smoke dope to relax and have a good time..... people do things for many reasons.... you could be hard core into Heroin, but that wouldn't make me change my opinion on what you have to say and bring to the table.

Many many people we all look up to, who teach us, who make the music we listen to, the movies we watch and enjoy..... you could easily guess they were all on something at one time or another.
To my mind all living and nonliving species perform good or bad actions just to have peace of mind and satisfaction. I am sure even your experience must not have come just by chance. You must be having dogged perseverance and firm desire to come across such an experience! It might not surprise you when I said even nonliving species perform actions to have mind’s satisfaction, as you experienced it yourself. To my mind (to you as well as per your experience) they too have life (see my definition of life later)


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It's all based on your perception as to what is life. Something may not be alive, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have "Life."

Exactly.... although we considder rocks, mountians, fire, planets, moons, etc. as all not being alive.... they are all made up of the exact same things we are made of..... atoms.... it all depends on the complexity those atoms when they come together....... we're just more complex then a rock.....

People say plants don't have brains or intelligence, etc.... however how does one explain how venus fly traps hunt? How come so many people report plants reacting positivly to certain kinds of music?
I have removed whole the confusion from my mind by defining Life as “ the feeling of existence that I am Something”. I firmly believe that all living and no living species do have such type of feeling of existence.

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Indeed..... one has to considder what is the "real" reality. Is this a sub reality prior to death's reality?

Is all of what we are experiencing just a part of one 15 min dream vacation we paid for? We're gonna wake up from it and all this life is gonna be just a memory like Total Recall?

Everything we see, feel, hear, taste, etc... even in dreams or not.... all have to some from the same sensory inputs were have been limited to in our lives.... if we trust what we see everyday from our senses..... why can't a small bit of truth come from and alternative method?
Reality is that the whole thing you witnessed in the experience and we, all exist ETERNALLY. As regards this life, it not 15 mts dream but a micro micro second (even less) dream of the whole eternity that we exist.

I have equated our body to one dress we wear daily. That way our bodies in different lives would be like dresses we wear in this life. That way our number of dresses in total life might be approaching our total eternity existence.

As regards dream and reality! You are right to say that it is all perception. The way, all you see in a dream is reality till, you are in dream or, reality so long as you were in experience; same way, this life is reality till you are living but after the death…what? This life’s reality would go into memory of your metaphysical mind as dream. Not only that your memory to start with, would think of your lost body. You, being the master of your will, would like to pick up a body of your choice in anybody’s womb. Your rest of forgotten memory would finalize your luck for next life to pay for your past actions.
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I think perhaps the connection between dreaming and being under the influence of something like what I was on, is all about imagination and the removal of society's limitations of it.

When I was a child, I seen and heard a lot of odd things.... too many things to explain right now..... I have a high imagination and I was creative... and people said it was all in my head. Over time, I eventually dulled my imagination from going through school, and work.

Most of the time now a days, if you see something out of the ordinary, our imaginations are so fractured from growing up, that we come to the quickest logical conclusion and dismiss everything else..... this limits understanding and you tend to dismiss things that are not commonly accepted. I just recently have been tapping back into my imagination and refreashing it..... I'm begining to find out that some of the things I thought were BS, might actually have something to them.
Very right! Everything is your perception and imagination based mostly on, feed back being given to your metaphysical mind over innumerous lives and more so to your physical mind in this life from the instance you started breathing!

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When people say Anything is Possible if you put your mind to it... I always thought it was a figure of speach...... but pretty much anything is possible..... it just depends on what you want to be possible.
Need no comments from my side, It is perfectly correct! Many times I said, “You are the master of your own self.” You should be 100% sure what exactly you wish, you would get it. Note: 100 means 100, no not even negligible discount in that wish!

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I am not sure I understand what you are saying here. I haven't really changed who I am... and everything around me is still the way it always was.... nothing has changed in that..... just my perspective on it all has changed. I never forget where I came from or who I am/was..... if I ever forgot then I would chance repeating mistakes.

These experiences have more so opened my limitations up to accept new concepts and ideas in the world. I now can look back on times in my life where things didn't make sense, and now.... I can understand what happened, what went right and what went wrong..... it's as if a door was opened as they say....

I don't considder what I have experienced or how I live today as anything negative..... far from it.....
Surely you did not understand when I said “you are in step II of understanding”. I meant you have come out of that experience one piece for which I would call you lucky. If you would have remained in that state for more time, you would have lost your social individuality and gone so to say insane (please do not mind my truthful words). You are lucky dear! Congrats for that!
Then by step II I also meant; you have become mentally so much confident now that for witnessing such a scene again you need not go after that LSD. You have developed confidence that what you witness is factual and real!!!

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Do not bother for that part of my writing! It is highest state of Self. Please do not get confused!!! I have given explanation while describing the biggest Reality later!!

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They are all a part of us. The issue here I think is making things confusing, is you are trying to separate the "Reality" I experienced with what you call "Big Reality" or the "Real Reality" ~ When I am trying to explain they are all the same thing at the same time.....
No! Please, there is no confusion. Let me explain my point with reference to your own body only. I did write this explanation once, to make Soccefret understand my conception of God! His comment to that was Big BS! But, in view of your own experience, it would be easier for you to understand.

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Imagine your body has grown to the size of whole thing you witnessed (all the universes and the like). Now the way, you are the master of your normal sized body. God (my conception) is the master of your enlarged body. Your body is the property of yourself while; enlarged body (what you saw in your experience) is the property of my conceived God.

Back to Reality! Reality as property of God you experienced, no problem. But the Bigger Reality is that God is not possible to conceive. Same way, your body can be conceived but not you!

Biggest Reality!!!!!! ?????????
Now, you have understood neither YOU nor GOD can be conceived. YOU are the individual consciousness due your ego of feeling, you are. If you somehow, loose that your individualistic ego, you would become God, universal consciousness. Finally, therefore, Biggest Reality is that you and God are not different but are separated by that your individualistic ego!!
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