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Old Jun 6, 2007, 12:55 pm   #30 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready
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Apeman said:
Since when did the rights of the people have to be enumerated on paper?
I am not saying they HAVE TO, I am asking where Vic gets the notion that we have a right to financially support our chosen canidates and that that financial support should be the sole, or primary means of representation.

I get the impression he is saying "the market" should determine the canidate, and I don't agree with that.

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Apeman said:
The 10th amendment is clear enough. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
No argument here Ape, I know the Bill of Rights and the Constitution quite intimately.

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Ape said:
The Government does not give us our rights, it only serves to limit them. After all, is that not the essence of being governed?
With that, I totally disagree.

The government draws its power from SANCTION and CONSCENT of the people, and its JOB is to ENFORCE our rights in law, as well as protect them FROM legal abridgement.

We are OUR OWN governors, which is why this nation was a government of the people, by the people, for the people, and why we reserve the right of revolt should our government veer from that role.

The Constitution and Bill of Rights take the place, and eradicate the need for a "seated King" or "Governor", since we are self-governed.


Petition of Redress of Grievances:
http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm

Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks:
http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/


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