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Technosoul · Jun 6, 2007, 01:32 am

It sounds to me like you have done your homework pretty well.

You might be interested in researching Sumer, which dates back before the ones you mentioned.

Their god had sons a daughters but the "heavenly father" was the number one "main god". Babylon re-named the "off-spring" gods "angels" so that they had one god but many angels instead of many gods in a ranking order of importance.

In Sumer they called God "AN" and sometimes used the word "ANU"
meaning "heavenly father" (of the lords). They write about actual visitations from the Lords who dwell in the sky (heavens). The Divine was a family.

Here is one link to get started or to stir up your interest.

Sumer

or Sumer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It was reported biblically that Abraham migrated from a place with that name.

Of course the Jewish people claim that the early stories in the Bible (Noah and so forth) were before Sumer which suddenly rose as a kingdom following the last Ice Age (and the legendary flood).

Sumer, the original place, was discovered fairly later then others, perhaps in the 1930s researchers first started to 'make digs" and they uncovered lots of clay tablets with writings. Lucky they also found a dictionary in Babylon that told the researchers what the symbols in Sumer would mean if translated into the symbols used in Babylon. by symbols I means words. However some tablets have yet to be translated and then translated into English. And more is undergound but because of the area it is located it is hard to get permission to continue the research. (and one big war might distory all the evidence forever).
Due to modern types of bombs that can explode underground. With the middle eastern wars happening lots of research is at a stand still for Western scientists.

A few books were also published about the findings and the clay tablets.

Moses however might have changed the direction the Jewish ideas took when he rebelled from this parents in Egypt after finding out that he had been adopted. Relative to the story about the God of the 10 Commandments.

the word Sumer means 'the land" but no doubt the land under the control of that kingdom, the first Kingdom following the last Ice Age. No one has discovered one that is older.

This kingdom had ships and sailed down to south Africa where they had gold mines, the area of Sumer used oil near the surface 'temperature controled kelms' where they could refine the gold and even make images out of the gold. They had farming of course. Even made beer. The cities were well constructed with buildings and houses. At least 6 cities in all. One city was for religion, with a Temple where the visiting Lords can stay, complete with a walled in tower. The gold was stored in parts of the Temple. (an idea continued later by Solomon). They had sewage and running water and bathtubs. Another city was dedicated to education. They had schools for teaching many things - science and other topics. Another city was dedicated to government, where human leaders were trained how to run the kingdom and they had laws and moral standards. Working and following instructions were paramount to the operaiton of that great kingdom, via education. They had farming sites near where Babylon was later built. And trees from the "holy land" where Jesus was a carpenter were transported to Sumer - funiture, boats, etc.
They made molds and then could press a number of clay tablets out like a printing press does for paper to duplicate their "texts". They had marrages between people.
There is actually no evidence of where these people might have otherwise come from or why that kindom with it's advanced knowlede suddenly got built with no trace to a less knowlable culture. That is to say... no slow development of their technologies.
As I recall the cities were disigned in a kind of large circle.

Jun 6, 2007, 01:32 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,936	It sounds to me like you have done your homework pretty well. You might be interested in researching Sumer, which dates back before the ones you mentioned. Their god had sons a daughters but the "heavenly father" was the number one "main god". Babylon re-named the "off-spring" gods "angels" so that they had one god but many angels instead of many gods in a ranking order of importance. In Sumer they called God "AN" and sometimes used the word "ANU" meaning "heavenly father" (of the lords). They write about actual visitations from the Lords who dwell in the sky (heavens). The Divine was a family. Here is one link to get started or to stir up your interest. Sumer or Sumer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia It was reported biblically that Abraham migrated from a place with that name. Of course the Jewish people claim that the early stories in the Bible (Noah and so forth) were before Sumer which suddenly rose as a kingdom following the last Ice Age (and the legendary flood). Sumer, the original place, was discovered fairly later then others, perhaps in the 1930s researchers first started to 'make digs" and they uncovered lots of clay tablets with writings. Lucky they also found a dictionary in Babylon that told the researchers what the symbols in Sumer would mean if translated into the symbols used in Babylon. by symbols I means words. However some tablets have yet to be translated and then translated into English. And more is undergound but because of the area it is located it is hard to get permission to continue the research. (and one big war might distory all the evidence forever). Due to modern types of bombs that can explode underground. With the middle eastern wars happening lots of research is at a stand still for Western scientists. A few books were also published about the findings and the clay tablets. Moses however might have changed the direction the Jewish ideas took when he rebelled from this parents in Egypt after finding out that he had been adopted. Relative to the story about the God of the 10 Commandments. the word Sumer means 'the land" but no doubt the land under the control of that kingdom, the first Kingdom following the last Ice Age. No one has discovered one that is older. This kingdom had ships and sailed down to south Africa where they had gold mines, the area of Sumer used oil near the surface 'temperature controled kelms' where they could refine the gold and even make images out of the gold. They had farming of course. Even made beer. The cities were well constructed with buildings and houses. At least 6 cities in all. One city was for religion, with a Temple where the visiting Lords can stay, complete with a walled in tower. The gold was stored in parts of the Temple. (an idea continued later by Solomon). They had sewage and running water and bathtubs. Another city was dedicated to education. They had schools for teaching many things - science and other topics. Another city was dedicated to government, where human leaders were trained how to run the kingdom and they had laws and moral standards. Working and following instructions were paramount to the operaiton of that great kingdom, via education. They had farming sites near where Babylon was later built. And trees from the "holy land" where Jesus was a carpenter were transported to Sumer - funiture, boats, etc. They made molds and then could press a number of clay tablets out like a printing press does for paper to duplicate their "texts". They had marrages between people. There is actually no evidence of where these people might have otherwise come from or why that kindom with it's advanced knowlede suddenly got built with no trace to a less knowlable culture. That is to say... no slow development of their technologies. As I recall the cities were disigned in a kind of large circle. Last edited by Technosoul; Jun 6, 2007 at 01:59 am.