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BaconButty · May 30, 2004, 10:21 am

Zionists hate the US, despite the fact that many Americans are pro-Israeli. The nave of a parish church in England, founded in 1088 and completed in the thirteenth century, boasts three Crusader tombs – I am anxious to draw your atttention to the fact that the words “fuck Allah” and “fuck Islam” or any variants thereof, do not appear on any of them. The original Crusaders engaged in a belated attempt to relieve the oppressed Christian communities in lands formerly Christian, subsequently overrun by Islam; the causus belli was the freedom of the Holy Places, Christian shrines which Islamic rulers were attempting to suppress, and the safety of pilgrims. What has Dubya's little expedition got to do with any of that?

Your compatriots, representing without doubt the most materially powerful nation in history, have made yourselves the useful idiots of a people who despise you. You have put your might at the service of a brutal apartheid state and are deaf to the warnings of those who believe that in doing so, you risk leading the entire human race by a short leash to perdition.

Christian philosemitism, a sentimental proclivity to all things Jewish characteristic of the flakier sort of Protestantism that seems to be influential in American conservative circles, manifesting itself politically in an ardent Zionism is at least proximately heretical, and would have been incomprehensible to the Crusaders. Jews were the first persecutors of the Church. The Jewish State was destroyed by the Emperor Titus in the 6th decade AD, but in the intervening 2000 years that hostility and fundamental contempt for Christianity and Christians has never slackened. If you’re tempted to doubt this, I refer you to any number of mainstream Jewish publications, both liberal and orthodox, which over the past twelve months have sent forth a deluge of calumny and vilification against the attempts of a Christian filmmaker to produce a piece of art unapologetically faithful to the gospels. The veil slipped, for a revelatory moment; competing with the fundamentalist rabbis, we heard the fury of “liberal”, secular Jews demanding blacklisting and censorship, howls of outrage that anyone should dare to represent any Jew in a less than flattering light, and insistent demands to be protected from manifestations of non-Jewish religious tradition.

The Zionists are not your friends. They are leading you by the nose. Your sentimental goodwill is being abused and exploited. Your political establishment is dominated by a Zionist clique whose divided loyalties, to put it politely, admit of some doubt that the interests of Americans are being best served. At present, the Palestinians are bearing the brunt; but your blank cheque to the State of Israel practically guarantees a catastrophe that could threaten to engulf us all.

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BaconButty Igneous Magma Posts: 156	Zionists hate the US, despite the fact that many Americans are pro-Israeli. The nave of a parish church in England, founded in 1088 and completed in the thirteenth century, boasts three Crusader tombs – I am anxious to draw your atttention to the fact that the words “fuck Allah” and “fuck Islam” or any variants thereof, do not appear on any of them. The original Crusaders engaged in a belated attempt to relieve the oppressed Christian communities in lands formerly Christian, subsequently overrun by Islam; the causus belli was the freedom of the Holy Places, Christian shrines which Islamic rulers were attempting to suppress, and the safety of pilgrims. What has Dubya's little expedition got to do with any of that? Your compatriots, representing without doubt the most materially powerful nation in history, have made yourselves the useful idiots of a people who despise you. You have put your might at the service of a brutal apartheid state and are deaf to the warnings of those who believe that in doing so, you risk leading the entire human race by a short leash to perdition. Christian philosemitism, a sentimental proclivity to all things Jewish characteristic of the flakier sort of Protestantism that seems to be influential in American conservative circles, manifesting itself politically in an ardent Zionism is at least proximately heretical, and would have been incomprehensible to the Crusaders. Jews were the first persecutors of the Church. The Jewish State was destroyed by the Emperor Titus in the 6th decade AD, but in the intervening 2000 years that hostility and fundamental contempt for Christianity and Christians has never slackened. If you’re tempted to doubt this, I refer you to any number of mainstream Jewish publications, both liberal and orthodox, which over the past twelve months have sent forth a deluge of calumny and vilification against the attempts of a Christian filmmaker to produce a piece of art unapologetically faithful to the gospels. The veil slipped, for a revelatory moment; competing with the fundamentalist rabbis, we heard the fury of “liberal”, secular Jews demanding blacklisting and censorship, howls of outrage that anyone should dare to represent any Jew in a less than flattering light, and insistent demands to be protected from manifestations of non-Jewish religious tradition. The Zionists are not your friends. They are leading you by the nose. Your sentimental goodwill is being abused and exploited. Your political establishment is dominated by a Zionist clique whose divided loyalties, to put it politely, admit of some doubt that the interests of Americans are being best served. At present, the Palestinians are bearing the brunt; but your blank cheque to the State of Israel practically guarantees a catastrophe that could threaten to engulf us all. NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 billion developing a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down, underwater, on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures ranging from below freezing to over 300 C. The Russians used a pencil.