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Old Oct 20, 2003, 02:00 pm   #35 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (castille,)
</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (G. Adams,)
And can you tell me how communism can't work?  It has never been tried so far, so its difficult to prove your statement.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>


Its been tried a few thousand times. Some of the great attempts were made in Cuba, China, and the USSR. Oh, and North Korea.


Communism has been *tried*. Its just never succeeded.



Before you claim those countries were not *real Communists* (a very lame excuse), I could claim the US isn't a *real* capitalist country either. The US has very high tariffs on their agriculture and steel import.
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Look, if you dip into left wing politics you will see that no-one but the ill informed calls the nations communist. USSR and NK have been termed Marxist-Leninist because they follow Lenin's adaptations to Marx. So they aint communist, they are someone's modifications. Lenin had to radically adapt Marx's ideas to Russia because it had a small proleteriat and a massive peasent population. The majority on the left would argue that he was wrong to do so, the proleteriat has to develop under capitalist conditions.
Mao's interpretation's were even more skewed. He argued that the strength was in the peasents, not the prole's, and was also based around nationalism. Very few consider Maoism to be communist, even if he developed his ideas from communist works.

Communism has never been tried, some have tried various routes towards communism, but have never reached communism.


Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Winston Churchill
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