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Old Jun 1, 2007, 11:00 am   #4388 (permalink) (top)
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No one is saying they hate homosexuals or anything like that.
Oh, please. I'm not making an accusation against you personally, but look at the facts: we have a group of people who are asking for some consideration. And not only have we denied them that consideration -- which I would argue is their just due, but even if it is not, it certainly isn't a major concession on the part of society as a whole -- but we have described them as abominations, founded movement after movement to oppose their fair treatment, even going so far as to propose an amendment to the Constitution to block their inclusion in our institutions. Tell me that this can be construed as anything but hatred.

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Homosexuals already have the EXACT same rights as heterosexuals. They can marry anyone of the opposite sex they choose. Even I as a heterosexual am forbidden to marry a woman of close relation. So, I'm restricted too. I do oppose no-fault divorce but that is not the topic at hand. This is about homosexual marriage.
That's a specious argument, and I think you know it. Homosexuals do not have the same opportunity granted to you as a heterosexual, as you can marry someone that you can love and share your life with in a meaningful way -- that is, you can have a REAL marriage. Homosexuals cannot do that.

Incest is a red herring as much as is no-fault divorce; my only point with bringing that up is to say that you should be spending your time arguing about that, and not this, if you actually want to save the institution of marriage. So, in just the same way, if you want to talk about incest, start another thread.


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