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Old May 30, 2007, 02:55 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
Autolykos
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Auto... Iraq was barely stable, and only stable through brutal measures of Saddam and his thugs. You know this as well as I do, you are choosing to ignore that point to make your "unstable Iraq" claim. ;/
I'll entertain your claim above for a moment.

See, if Iraq was stable only through the measures of Saddam and his thugs, and we remove them, then by definition Iraq would no longer be stable. Also, it makes one wonder if, without Saddam and his thugs, Iraq as a political entity should be stable. Perhaps the US desire for Iraq as we know it to continue to exist, and be stable, fulfills a larger geopolitical purpose?

By my own standards, Iraq was much more stable under Saddam and his thugs than it has been under US occupation. So I don't see what point I'm ignoring here.

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You can't remove the source, FFS WE ARE THE PROBLEM because we are not Islamic. Don't you get it?

Why is that so hard to accept?
Perhaps because it doesn't seem true?

AFAIK, Osama bin Laden did not make his fatwas against the US because most Americans are not Muslim. All of the reasons behind his fatwas dealt with US foreign policy towards the Middle East.

Of course, it's easier to stick one's head in the proverbial sand and think that, because we must be all-good, the "Islamics" must be all-evil. That's easier to do than to admit that the US government created conditions that ultimately contributed to Islamic terrorism.

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