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castille · Oct 20, 2003, 10:16 am

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And how are you doing two degrees? <hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Commerce and Arts double degree.

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And a few nights a week I do like to go out.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Then ONE night, don't go out. Stay home, and read the book. It only took me 30 minutes to read it. But of course, you'll make up another excuse and another and another and another......(people have funny habits of making excuses to justify their failure).

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Next...What is the point of us all reading this book to start these business's unless we intend to get rich? <hr size="1" /></blockquote>

I never said you should start a business. Please read carefully. The book doesn't even DEAL with business. It is merely suggesting another perspective to adopt when looking at the issues of money and wealth.

Also, I never began my business intending to get rich. I enjoy the art of building a business. I can get a stable 9-5 job in marketing, but that would bore me.

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And the uber rich are not the hardest workers. Someone doing 12 hours of phone calling and number juggling does not work as hard as someone doing 12 hours down a tin mine. <hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Your ignorance towards business owners are appalling. Have you ever met a rich person before in your life? I doubt it.

I spend "12 hours of phone calling and number juggling". No wait, I spend ALL my waking hours "phone calling and juggling". Have you ever made 200 calls in one day, knowing ONE botched up call could bring you to bankruptcy?

Today I was given a call by a suit asking a million questions. Know what was so hard about answering a million questions? ONE mistake and I would lose half of my life's savings. ONE MISTAKE. And down goes years of work.

Please talk to some business owners before you make your stupid assumptions. No, don't. They will tear you apart before you can finish your first sentence. Stupidity isn't appreciated in business.

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If people are as lazy as you suggest in your counter arguments to communism elsewhere, why would people become CEO's, when they can do all that "easy work" like handploughing fields or quarrying?<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Because we enjoy it. Yes, its got huge amounts of pressure (the majority of people who die young from stress are in fact executives and business owners). Yes, a farmer living in a CAPITALIST country (which doesnt include Rwanda, current under a socialist dictator) sitting on his tractor staring at his fields is easier work.

But you know why people like us keep doing it? Cuz we love it. We love the excitement of not knowing whether the next deal could make us $100,000 or plunge us into bankruptcy. I don't pretend to speak for the entire business world (as you cannot pretend to speak on behalf of the workers), but every day is like jumping off an aircraft with a parachute - its thrilling, but dangerous.

There was a man who was a drunkard, and was later convicted for murdering a fast food clerk. He had 2 sons.

One son was later arrested for attempted murder, and came out of prison to be killed by a rival gang member.

Another son became a comfortable manager of a regional marketing office, living a good life with wife and a kid.

When asked about their situations, they both said "Its because of my dad!".

In a Communist society, we would have to assume everyone is equal. Yet those 2 children were not equal, despite having come from equal father.

Some people can go from poverty to wealth....others go from wealth to poverty....and yet others remain in poverty.

Those who fail blame everyone, except themself. Its the governments fault. Its the tax office. Its god. But never me. Some go to poor countries to begin revolutions, and live out their dreams by oppressing others. Others fade away into oblivion. Yet some manage to suceed.

YOU can suceed, if you set your mind to it. The first step is not to blame anyone. Take this advice if you want, or throw it away. Its up to you to make yourself successful, irregardless of the system you live under.

Oct 20, 2003, 10:16 am	#10 (permalink) (top)
castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by And how are you doing two degrees? <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Commerce and Arts double degree. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by And a few nights a week I do like to go out.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Then ONE night, don't go out. Stay home, and read the book. It only took me 30 minutes to read it. But of course, you'll make up another excuse and another and another and another......(people have funny habits of making excuses to justify their failure). </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by Next...What is the point of us all reading this book to start these business's unless we intend to get rich? <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> I never said you should start a business. Please read carefully. The book doesn't even DEAL with business. It is merely suggesting another perspective to adopt when looking at the issues of money and wealth. Also, I never began my business intending to get rich. I enjoy the art of building a business. I can get a stable 9-5 job in marketing, but that would bore me. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by And the uber rich are not the hardest workers. Someone doing 12 hours of phone calling and number juggling does not work as hard as someone doing 12 hours down a tin mine. <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Your ignorance towards business owners are appalling. Have you ever met a rich person before in your life? I doubt it. I spend "12 hours of phone calling and number juggling". No wait, I spend ALL my waking hours "phone calling and juggling". Have you ever made 200 calls in one day, knowing ONE botched up call could bring you to bankruptcy? Today I was given a call by a suit asking a million questions. Know what was so hard about answering a million questions? ONE mistake and I would lose half of my life's savings. ONE MISTAKE. And down goes years of work. Please talk to some business owners before you make your stupid assumptions. No, don't. They will tear you apart before you can finish your first sentence. Stupidity isn't appreciated in business. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by If people are as lazy as you suggest in your counter arguments to communism elsewhere, why would people become CEO's, when they can do all that "easy work" like handploughing fields or quarrying?<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Because we enjoy it. Yes, its got huge amounts of pressure (the majority of people who die young from stress are in fact executives and business owners). Yes, a farmer living in a CAPITALIST country (which doesnt include Rwanda, current under a socialist dictator) sitting on his tractor staring at his fields is easier work. But you know why people like us keep doing it? Cuz we love it. We love the excitement of not knowing whether the next deal could make us $100,000 or plunge us into bankruptcy. I don't pretend to speak for the entire business world (as you cannot pretend to speak on behalf of the workers), but every day is like jumping off an aircraft with a parachute - its thrilling, but dangerous. There was a man who was a drunkard, and was later convicted for murdering a fast food clerk. He had 2 sons. One son was later arrested for attempted murder, and came out of prison to be killed by a rival gang member. Another son became a comfortable manager of a regional marketing office, living a good life with wife and a kid. When asked about their situations, they both said "Its because of my dad!". In a Communist society, we would have to assume everyone is equal. Yet those 2 children were not equal, despite having come from equal father. Some people can go from poverty to wealth....others go from wealth to poverty....and yet others remain in poverty. Those who fail blame everyone, except themself. Its the governments fault. Its the tax office. Its god. But never me. Some go to poor countries to begin revolutions, and live out their dreams by oppressing others. Others fade away into oblivion. Yet some manage to suceed. YOU can suceed, if you set your mind to it. The first step is not to blame anyone. Take this advice if you want, or throw it away. Its up to you to make yourself successful, irregardless of the system you live under. Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.