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Originally posted by irichc, 1) Every truth leads to another one. Otherwise, truth's limit would be a non-truth, in which truth is going to find its beginning and its end. In that case, false propositions would proceed to true ones, and true ones would generate false ones as well. 2) Thus, every truth, whatever it may be, guides us by means of an infinite enchainment to supreme and unattainable Truth, which is God. 3) By stating a single true proposition, being really true, we are denying the limit that will denaturalize it (vid. 1); we are declaring an infinite progression of truths and, consequently, recognizing God's existence (vid. 2). 4) So, even if that hypothetical true proposition was "God doesn't exist", as far as it is asserted as a truth (vid. 3), it follows that God (i.e. the Truth, vid. 2) exists. 5) However, if God exists, the previous proposition (vid. 4) is false; and, if God doesn't exist, it is false too, because in that case the Truth (i.e. God, vid. 2) wouldn't exist and, then, single truths wouldn't exist either (vid. 3). So, in any case, God exists.
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The logic assumes God exists from the beginning. Nothing new. The Kalam arguement and Craig make similar claims. Number 4 is False. If God does not exist, God does not exist. If God exists, God exists.
Recognizing an infinite progression of truths in the past and the future does not prove God exists. The atheist may simply respond that the ultimate truth is simply the nature of the infinite existence with no God.
The Kalam arguement and Craig assumed a starting point, ie, BIG BANG, thus the Universe was finite and there must be an infinite God a creator. This logic infact works if you consider all physical existence has a starting point, but this assumption breaks down if the scientists assume that existence is infinite in the past and future and no starting point or end. There may be an infinite number of universes where each universe is finite with a beginning and an end, like ours.
By the way I believe in God, but I do not believe in selfish circular arguements that assume the result in the beginning.
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