[Chris the Chees]

Based on what?

It was a 500lb car bomb, you can't put that into a rucksack and just walk into school and it was no doubt made by experienced bomb maker who had split from PIRA and gone over to the rIRA. I very seriously doubt a 23 year old English student would have the knowledge, funds or means of carring out such an attack.

And again, based on what?

Because Copeland, like Cho, was not part of a major, well connected well funded, well armed, well trained paramilitary organisation. Copelands pipe bombs were derived from house hold materials and the explosives from fireworks. He is an example of an unconnected lunatic bomber without connections or training, which is exactly like Cho would have been.

Not that it is I who has the burden of proof on this matter. If you wish to contend that Cho, had he not had access to guns, could have made a bomb capable killing 30+ people, when professional Irish terrorists with a long tradition of violence and expertese could not manage a tally that high with a single 500lb car bomb and a lone nutter, like Cho, could not manage more than three with numerous bombs. If thats what you want to contend, then lets see your evidence.

You haven't stated a fact yet.

Actually, I have stated a 'fact', and that 'fact' is that a professional highly motivated terrorist group with a massive car bomb could not achieve a tally of 30 kills. That is a fact. It is also a fact that a lone, inexpert nutcase who planted numerous bombs in London was only capable of killing three people. They are both facts which you can investigate at your leasure.

Now do you propose that an individual like Cho could do better than a major terrorist network? And you want to talk to me about an "illogically based conclusion"? LOL

Thats an absurd, illogically based conclusion, but what's new there?

So you argue that a home made bomb would have indeed been more successful than Cho was with a gun? Well, prove it.

Dirty Bombs, if you are talking about nukes, are more scary than deadly when compared to alternatives, but I would expect you to chase the hype of "dirty bombs".... boogie woogie man comin to get everyone.....booo

That is a completely irrelevent point, and actually the reason I brought it up was because José Padilla was in the news again a few months ago and I remember the hype surrounding him a few years back, not because of the destructive capabilites (or lack of) of a dirty bomb.

No, It would be absurd Chris.

Well if they walked into your flat and found a few grams of missing Russian nuclear materials and a load of chemical fertilizer and diesel, i think you might find your self in a bit of trouble.

Oh and incidentally several British people were jailed for life last month for their plans and materials to make a fertilizer bomb.