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Old Oct 19, 2003, 08:34 am   #48 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Impenitent,)
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1. "Hitler promised a liberal, democratic and socialist utopia to his followers? I think not." what then did he promise? death and toil and misery? the nazis were the national socialists not the national fascists although socialists are woe to admit it... "He believed in hiearchy, and of the total submission to the leader. I don't." ... no, you believe in hierarchy of revolutionaries killing everyone who does not agree to total submission to the will of the communist mob... it is the same thing... submit to this authority, hitler or the communist mob, it is the same exploitation and I don't know why you can't see that...

2. "I don't want to kill the capitalist minority. I would want them to listen to the majority and accept that it has no right to exploit the majority any longer." I don't want to have to kill them, I want them to willingly submit themselves into slavery for the glorious communist mob... mind you they will be killed if they do not submit to the authority and exploitation of the communist mob... they don't have the right to exploit but we have the right to exploit and kill them... we are justified and they aren't... hail the glorious communist mob... seig heil

3. "This has nothing to do with Hitlers ideas. He wished to cleanse the world of beings that he deemed imperfect." but if they will not listen to the majority they must be cleansed as well... "if that requires bloodshed I believe it is worth it"

as I said before, when do we board the trains for Auschwitz?
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2. I don't want them to submit to the communist majority, I want them to agree with, support and engage with the communist majority. And they will not be killed fo disagreeing or for not submitting to the communists, it is when they attack the majority to retain there own power that their killing becomes justified.
And it is not a case of the majority exploiting the minority, the minority will be removed from power and then, like everybody else, will work for themselves from the public, collective resources (though will not be allowed to do so at other expense). The change is that instead of other people working for them, now they will work for themselves.
And the majority is justified in freeing itself from exploitation.

3. The communists majority would not be cleansing the exploitative minority. They would be fighting against them. It is not the case of Germany, where an innocent minority was rounded up and executed. This would be the minority attacking the majority, and the majority respondin likewise.

And I will repeat my quote that you so happily cut to make it look bad.

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (G. Adams,)
I want to end exploitation, and if that requires bloodshed I believe it is worth it, but it is a last resort.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>


Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
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