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Quote by: ladyphoenix If I say it's my responsibility to protect myself, then I am responsible for protecting myself in every respect, up to and including protecting my own rights.
However, if I am a voter, and the government is my servant, how does it not then follow that by voting I am indeed protecting my rights?
Just a thought. I do see where you're going with that, though it took me a bit... it didn't seem all that clear to me at first... |
I think you have the gist of it.
You can't say that it's your own responsibility to protect all aspects of your life and then also say that it's the gov't's responsibility to protect you too. You can't have both.
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Quote by: brien The Constitution doesn't grant rights that "are endowed by our creator" but rather guarantees they will not be infringed upon by government. Leastways, that is the way I understand it. |
I agree with you there.
By denying the right to own guns, the gov't is not taking away your right to defend yourself. It's taking away your right to own a tool. I take an objective stance on this issue... I can own a gun but not a fully-automatic gun. A gun is a gun... why the difference? I'm saying all or none.
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Quote by: Osborn Police do NOT protect you, they AID YOU IN PROTECTING YOURSELF. |
You contradict yourself again.
I thought you said that self-protection was the sole responsibility of the person. Now you're saying it's the responsibility of the gov't to help you? Well what happens with those who choose not to help themselves?
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Quote by: Osborn I think you tragically misunderstood my statements, and it could have been my wording, it was late when I posted. |
It's probably because you have too much anti-current-American-gov't sentiment in what you have to say that it detracts from the point you are making?
I still disagree with you.
You want the gov't to be responsible for protecting your rights, but you don't want the gov't to take those rights away?
That's irresponsible.
There has to be a balance between responsibility and power. You can't give something responsibility for a thing and then respond with anger when they exercise their power over that thing.
A mentally diseased person does not, for the most part, possess the necessary social "awareness" to weigh the responsibility of having a gun with the power it gives them.
A gun is not only power, but it's power that is easy to use. That's a dangerous combination. Put that kind of power in the hands of those who lack a certain level of restraint, or remorse, and you are creating the very situation that will, literally, shoot you in the foot.