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Quote by: Kamehameha34 Y >= X What you're claiming is that Y must equal infinity for that equation to work at all. That's not true, because X can equal any number of values less than infinity.

And this is claiming that infinity is an obtainable number. I'm saying the power must be infinite (un-obtainable, undefined) so that it can encompass any potential value of X. Until X is defined (which as epist said is probably naturally limited) it still has the potential for anything. It may very well be limited naturally, but until we say that it is, we can't assume so. Saying "some gods" doesn't tell us that those gods do in fact have natural limitations to those wants.

Quote by: Kamehameha34 What I've been saying amounts to a proof, as follows- 1. Some possible gods would never want what is beyond their ability. (Premise) 2. Some possible gods would be able to provide for themselves whatever they want. What you've been saying is that I need to state the first premise, or the second one is false.

The second one would be considered false if the first premise is to hold true because "some" does not define the wants. The wants define the limit of the power. You must state the first premise in order to clarify that it is not the wants that define the limits of the ability. As in, there is already a set limit of the ability and some gods would not want anything beyond it.

If we only state the second sentence, it is implied that the wants define the limitations of the gods power, something the intial premise contradicts. "Some" in the second statement only means "not all". We'd end up with the single statement "not all gods have the power to obtain whatever they want". Some can, some can't--the wants are still undefined.