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Old Oct 17, 2003, 02:28 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Impenitent,)
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1. "HUMANITY - Where did I say leave it to the mob?... If he continues everyone will have known about it and can then vote to throw him out. "

all get together and VOTE to lynch him... err throw him out... that IS leaving it to the mob...

1a "I don't see why any group, unless so desperate it will listen to the bullshit of demagogues, would want to infringe on the rights of another."

unless the mob votes to infringe upon his rights... any group?

2 "I've already said no to mob rule, its democratic rule tempered by liberalism."

what tempers it? majority rule? the majority is the mob... does the mob exersize liberalism when it votes to remove a member?

3. "This forum has no power, except to debate on TV, or whatever communication device, what they think is best for humanity."

sounds a lot like televangalism... they know that you'd best live your life for jesus... the non-ruling philosopher kings are contributing suggestions to influence the mob? please... but no religion in communism... except the forum of arguing communists act as such by telling you how to live

you have too many contradictions with which you must deal

the communist/anarchist theories collapse under their own contradictions...
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And voting someone out of the workplace is different from democratically electing a different government? You are after all throwing someone out of their workplace. Or do you consider this to be leaving things to the mob? If so then I support the mob fully.

I've already said that communism could only occur after the world is entirely a liberal democracy, thus creating a political culture of ingrained liberalism. In Britain there will never be a BNP government voted into power? Because we have an ingrained liberal culture. Same goes for the ANP in the US, it isn't going to get into power because the ingrained political culture means that nobody will listen to such shit stirring arseholes.

Using your terms now, when the mob votes someone out of there workplace they would exercise liberalism as would anyone. They wouldn't vote them out because they were black, jewish, female or gay, but because they were slackers or thieves.

The forum does have no power as in executive power. Of course they have the power to influence, that is undeniable and exactly why they are in that forum. They go up to the podium, argue their point and counter others and hope people agree with them. But as the power to influence is not a feature exclusive to communism it is pointless to argue over it if you are supporting capitalist western democracy, because you are also arguing against that too.


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