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Technosoul · Mar 29, 2007, 01:51 am

In the beginning the government claimed the land in it's own name, as the owner of the mapped properties for the United States. So the government owned the real estate and clamed that right on behalf of we the people.

Then the government allowed citizens to buy land from the government, and in some cases to own land for free by making a claim and settlements.

However the government can demand the land back if they want to build a railroad or freeway through your house. So is it really your property? Yes, they might pay you for getting it back to help cover your investment but the property you do not keep. Is not buying property much like the right to rent it until the government wants to re-call it. (which I agree, seldom happens).

And they can create property taxes and so you pay and pay forever and if you do not pay taxes... bye bye property.

Other so-called property rights can be violated by city policemen.

What kind of consitutional "right" is that anyway. It would seem hardly not a right at all, but just a illusion of a pretended right.

And of course, owning property is only for workers who get good credit, not for very low income workers or poor folks. If it was a real consitutional right then everyone would be allowed to own a chunk of the rock for a house or whatnot, as a brith right payable by the government at age 18. Becoming a citizen does not insure your automatic right to own property if you cannot pay for it, you cannot just "claim it" as did the government.

Now you have the right to get rich if you can and buy some property, now owned mostly by banks or other people. But that is not a right granted by any Creator or the Consitution, because "smarts" are not self evident truths that can be applied to every citizen of the USA.

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Technosoul Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,936	Questioning the right to own property. In the beginning the government claimed the land in it's own name, as the owner of the mapped properties for the United States. So the government owned the real estate and clamed that right on behalf of we the people. Then the government allowed citizens to buy land from the government, and in some cases to own land for free by making a claim and settlements. However the government can demand the land back if they want to build a railroad or freeway through your house. So is it really your property? Yes, they might pay you for getting it back to help cover your investment but the property you do not keep. Is not buying property much like the right to rent it until the government wants to re-call it. (which I agree, seldom happens). And they can create property taxes and so you pay and pay forever and if you do not pay taxes... bye bye property. Other so-called property rights can be violated by city policemen. What kind of consitutional "right" is that anyway. It would seem hardly not a right at all, but just a illusion of a pretended right. And of course, owning property is only for workers who get good credit, not for very low income workers or poor folks. If it was a real consitutional right then everyone would be allowed to own a chunk of the rock for a house or whatnot, as a brith right payable by the government at age 18. Becoming a citizen does not insure your automatic right to own property if you cannot pay for it, you cannot just "claim it" as did the government. Now you have the right to get rich if you can and buy some property, now owned mostly by banks or other people. But that is not a right granted by any Creator or the Consitution, because "smarts" are not self evident truths that can be applied to every citizen of the USA.