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Impenitent · Oct 17, 2003, 10:05 am

G... 1. tabla rasa? nope... humans are born with drives as are all living things... greed and self interest is primary among them... why does a baby cry? it wants something? greedy baby demanding something...
or is that learned as well?

2. historical requirements... the whole world must be capitalist... this alone insures that communism will never even get started...

3. "This is not creating a hiearchy in society, as the managers are under the control of the workers."
no hiearchy? yet there is control by the mob of workers... alas, that mob is the hiearchy... "there is a world council, forum not government style, that argues the best courses of action for humanity" the mob of communist workers will vote and demand that everyone, specifically those who object, follow this utopian plan... that is a hiearchy... do you not see the contradictions?

4. laws? who needs laws? just whip up emotional fervor amongst the mob and vote on it... no protection from the communist mob is needed (and protection cannot exist because that would be government and hiearchy)... that boy needs a good 'ol commie style lynching because he is ... and not producing... tell me this isn't possible and wouldn't happen on whims everyday...

5. the philosopher kings? "This would be the most intelligent people of society being elected to councils, in order for them to publicly debate with each other the best ways in which things should be done." since when does the society elect the most intelligent anything? who would judge? tell me this isn't government... hardly equal either...

5a. "If however they decided to kidnap people to put into slavery, once this was recognised the councils from each area could co-ordinate their militias against the new city." the council? you mean the mob? the government? their militia? organize the thugs for the ends of the mob? and we moan about the us in iraq or israel in the west bank... why in communism we can whip up the mob into a militia and kill people who are equal with no government... no greed there... greed of the benevolent communist mob?

6. I've brought this up before... "One way is the voucher system. Replacing money, the vouchers allow people choice over what they want for the work they have done, while preventing the accumulation of wealth into the hands of individuals or minorities. " vouchers do not replace money, vouchers become the new rate of exchange in lieu of money... it is still private property and hoarding vouchers will happen... but they will expire... then they will hoard other things... but the communist mob will have to unite and kill the equal voucher/property hoarders... dated credits? same thing...

6a. electorally accountable militias? I vote we kill him... watch it happen...

human, all too human...

Oct 17, 2003, 10:05 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	G... 1. tabla rasa? nope... humans are born with drives as are all living things... greed and self interest is primary among them... why does a baby cry? it wants something? greedy baby demanding something... or is that learned as well? 2. historical requirements... the whole world must be capitalist... this alone insures that communism will never even get started... 3. "This is not creating a hiearchy in society, as the managers are under the control of the workers." no hiearchy? yet there is control by the mob of workers... alas, that mob is the hiearchy... "there is a world council, forum not government style, that argues the best courses of action for humanity" the mob of communist workers will vote and demand that everyone, specifically those who object, follow this utopian plan... that is a hiearchy... do you not see the contradictions? 4. laws? who needs laws? just whip up emotional fervor amongst the mob and vote on it... no protection from the communist mob is needed (and protection cannot exist because that would be government and hiearchy)... that boy needs a good 'ol commie style lynching because he is ... and not producing... tell me this isn't possible and wouldn't happen on whims everyday... 5. the philosopher kings? "This would be the most intelligent people of society being elected to councils, in order for them to publicly debate with each other the best ways in which things should be done." since when does the society elect the most intelligent anything? who would judge? tell me this isn't government... hardly equal either... 5a. "If however they decided to kidnap people to put into slavery, once this was recognised the councils from each area could co-ordinate their militias against the new city." the council? you mean the mob? the government? their militia? organize the thugs for the ends of the mob? and we moan about the us in iraq or israel in the west bank... why in communism we can whip up the mob into a militia and kill people who are equal with no government... no greed there... greed of the benevolent communist mob? 6. I've brought this up before... "One way is the voucher system. Replacing money, the vouchers allow people choice over what they want for the work they have done, while preventing the accumulation of wealth into the hands of individuals or minorities. " vouchers do not replace money, vouchers become the new rate of exchange in lieu of money... it is still private property and hoarding vouchers will happen... but they will expire... then they will hoard other things... but the communist mob will have to unite and kill the equal voucher/property hoarders... dated credits? same thing... 6a. electorally accountable militias? I vote we kill him... watch it happen... human, all too human... "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...