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Old Mar 17, 2007, 11:26 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
Kamehameha34
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So just suck it up and explain.. that's all anyone can ever ask of you.
"Suck it up and explain"? That's what you say when you fail to comprehend a rather simplistic analogy? Your compounding of the two makes you seem a little blunt.

"Unknowable at this point" means that, with current evidence, or lack thereof, the question of a god is unknown. That has nothing to do with future evidence or faith. What did you take "at this point" to mean? That we'd invent some new form of reasoning with which to construe static evidence?

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you denied that agnosticm had ANY beliefs whatsoever
Faith and belief are two different things. Belief is logically consequent to faith, but faith doesn't always follow belief.

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You demanded that you were a non-practicing agnostic, but denied carrying any beliefs with that banner at the same time.
Sheesh.. were you in the same conversation?

Quote where I say that I believe that there IS proof for or against god, or where I say it's meaningFUL to care.

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Just because I'm presenting evidence against one god doesn't mean I'm presenting evidence against all gods.
I asked for evidence against the 'creator of the universe' - not a god defined into impossibility.



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Disbelief of the existence of any god. Right.

That doesn't mean you can start making up gods and because I don't know of these gods you're about to make up, doesn't mean I'm not qualified as an atheist. Don't be silleh.
All potential gods share one thing in common - that they created the universe. Exclusive atheism, by definition, proposes that no gods could exist - and therefore, that no beings could have created the universe. Any other variances with each god are irrelevant to the atheistic position.

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Yes, I know the analogy. What you don't understand is that what you're saying is wrong. You're getting the wrong message and poking holes for you shit again. ^^
You didn't demonstrate knowledge of the analogy.

And please stop poking holes for me shit again.



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Maybe if you understood the difference, you wouldn't need to poke holes.
Was telling you not enough of a clue that I did know the difference, or are you just out to be a counterproductive to discussion?
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