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castille · Oct 17, 2003, 04:57 am

Ok, we're seeing people saying "Communism can solve any problem", or "Communism IS Utopia!", but nobody has ever explained the economic, social, and political issues in detail.

Several major points that need to be clarified about Communism:

HUMANITY: How will Communism erase human greed? For example, if I got the same food and water as everyone else, irregardless of working hours, I would work 1 hour per week, and do it in a casual manner. I know many people who would do the same.

GOVERNMENTS: How will Communism help countries like Pakistan, Libya, Burma, etc who are all under oppressive socialist governments, with enough bullets to shoot anyone who protests? Will those leaders suddenly give up all their power magically?

PRODUCTION: How will Communism ensure efficient production? Who will manage factories, ensure production levels are kept, if there is no leader? Will a worker from Bangledesh get to vote on a community issue for the town of Kansas, and how? Will all 6 billion of humanity have to vote on every issue that arises? Who will count those votes?

LAWS: Who will make the laws and enforce them? Will we leave it to mob rule (ie. lynch people), or complete democracy (ie. if 50.01% of a town decides to kill all Jews, then their wish will be granted)? Who will enforce those laws? Whoever has a gun?

LEADERSHIP: Basic animal and human instincts dictates there to be a leader. Even social groups have a leader. Who will lead Communism? If nobody leads Communism, then who will distribute the food? (don't tell me "The People", tell me WHO. The butcher? The baker?) And what will prevent them from corruption?

What if somebody forms their own city, and starts enslaving members of other cities? Don't tell me "it will never happen", because anything can happen.

SUPPLY NETWORKS: How will supply networks and distribution be formed? How do we determine the demand for certain products in certain regions? Who will coordinate and organise the distribution of bread/water to regions? What will ensure they do not take a bit more food for themselves?

And if we just say "the people will do this", then does this mean I have to walk 90 miles every morning to get my food? There isnt any farms nearby, so somebody has to deliver my food for me. But if they have to deliver my food, what stops them from taking more food for themselves? Again, don't say "Communism will cast a magic spell that removes greed from humanity". If it can be done, it WILL BE DONE. (just ask your local neo-Nazi)

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castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	Ok, we're seeing people saying "Communism can solve any problem", or "Communism IS Utopia!", but nobody has ever explained the economic, social, and political issues in detail. Several major points that need to be clarified about Communism: HUMANITY: How will Communism erase human greed? For example, if I got the same food and water as everyone else, irregardless of working hours, I would work 1 hour per week, and do it in a casual manner. I know many people who would do the same. GOVERNMENTS: How will Communism help countries like Pakistan, Libya, Burma, etc who are all under oppressive socialist governments, with enough bullets to shoot anyone who protests? Will those leaders suddenly give up all their power magically? PRODUCTION: How will Communism ensure efficient production? Who will manage factories, ensure production levels are kept, if there is no leader? Will a worker from Bangledesh get to vote on a community issue for the town of Kansas, and how? Will all 6 billion of humanity have to vote on every issue that arises? Who will count those votes? LAWS: Who will make the laws and enforce them? Will we leave it to mob rule (ie. lynch people), or complete democracy (ie. if 50.01% of a town decides to kill all Jews, then their wish will be granted)? Who will enforce those laws? Whoever has a gun? LEADERSHIP: Basic animal and human instincts dictates there to be a leader. Even social groups have a leader. Who will lead Communism? If nobody leads Communism, then who will distribute the food? (don't tell me "The People", tell me WHO. The butcher? The baker?) And what will prevent them from corruption? What if somebody forms their own city, and starts enslaving members of other cities? Don't tell me "it will never happen", because anything can happen. SUPPLY NETWORKS: How will supply networks and distribution be formed? How do we determine the demand for certain products in certain regions? Who will coordinate and organise the distribution of bread/water to regions? What will ensure they do not take a bit more food for themselves? And if we just say "the people will do this", then does this mean I have to walk 90 miles every morning to get my food? There isnt any farms nearby, so somebody has to deliver my food for me. But if they have to deliver my food, what stops them from taking more food for themselves? Again, don't say "Communism will cast a magic spell that removes greed from humanity". If it can be done, it WILL BE DONE. (just ask your local neo-Nazi) Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.