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Fushigi said:
Hmm... guess if you can't maintain your moral justification for killing a fetus, you move to a legal one. Nice change of tack.
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Who penalizes for morals?
Is that not what we are talking about in the end, about penalization for actions committed, in societies eyes?
Laws are what courts, governments and societies deal with.
What is a citizen? define:citizen - Google Search What is an individual? define:individual - Google Search What is a fetus? define:fetus - Google Search
There are also specific legal defintions unique to Nations, States and smaller entities.
We ALL have our own moral codes, and they are SUBJECTIVE to the INDIVIDUALS.
Society adopts a code of
law, which is not interchangeable with
morals.
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Fushigi said:
However, if the standard for legally killing someone is simply that organism's legal standing, I suppose if we discovered a primitive tribe living in the rainforests of Brazil we'd be within our rights to kill them?
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What don't you understand here?
Simply because they are primitive, does not mean they don't have individual NATURAL rights, which is to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, by BIRTH, not conception.
If it were by conception, that would mean that EVERY birth would have to be successful. That is not the case, naturally, or artificially by human influence.
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Fushigi said:
There is also this business about being "an individual." What's your definition of an individual?
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A born, human being, NO LONGER ATTACHED to the mother by a life-line, or umbilical cord.