[Zhavric]

Quote by: jascowhiz0 I think its taken out of context and obviously biased.

There was something that is taken out of context. Can you point to what it was?

Christianity was an underground religion it its early years,

Which years are you referring to? If your answer is before 70 ce, you're going to have to provide evidence.

so people weren't going to go public like the apostles and Christ did(or conveniently no documents talking about Jesus for 40 years)

I'm sorry, but the disciples never existed either. There isn't a shred of evidence suggesting they're real and considerable evidence suggesting they're every bit as contrived as their mythic teacher.

Your line of reasoning so far hasn't actually addressed any of the issues raised in video. You're simply restating Christian propaganda. To put things in perspective, here's an analogy:

Video: "Superman isn't a real person. He's fictional and exists only in comic books."

You: "Then who saved Lois Lane all those times? Who stopped Lex Luthor from blowing up Metropolis?"

Another thing is, after Christ died the believers thought He would come back relatively soon, but after a period of time they realized it wasn't going to be soon. So then they wrote the gospels quite a few years after Jesus left.

How sophomoricly convenient? It sounds perfectly reasonable until we give it a moment's thought.

First, if the events in the gospels had taken place, we'd expect to see A LOT more mention of them. After all, we're talking about one of the most literate places on the planet at the time (having a written religion will do that...) set at the crossroards of Pax Romana.

Philo of Alexandria comes to mind. He lived at the same time Jesus did, visited Judea, wrote about Judaism, mentions Pilate and hung out with the Essenes (people who are now considered early Chritians). Yet Philo is completely silent on Jesus. He doesn't mention him directly ("Some guy was making dead people walk around") or indirectly ("a bunch of kooks were talking about dead people walking around").

Second, the above quoted bit is EXACTLY the sort of excuse we'd hear if someone was trying to invent history that never actually took place.

They float the idea that Paul thought of a completely different Christ because he never mentions Jesus's life. I was glancing through Hebrews, its not meant to recount of Jesus's life, its meant to teach what the church believes in.

Once again: how convenient? You do realize this is a tremendous cop out, yes? The challenge is to prove Paul was aware of Jesus' alleged life events. You have in no way met this challenge.

Paul's documents don't contradict the rest of the bible or Christianity.

That's because the gospels were written with Paul's writings close at hand. We know the first gospel to be written was Mark and we know it wasn't written until 70ce. The other gospels came later.

They mention Hebrews 8:4 "For if He (had been)were on earth, He would not (even have been) be a priest, since there are priests who offer the gifts according to the law:" (translation from my bible is different than the one they used) But looking through Hebrews, the quote from the context I read is basically saying that if he comes to earth he would not be a priest but something else. Or when he comes to earth he is not going to be a priest. He comes as a high priest, not a priest as Hebrews says. Whats funny is they use this quote to demonstrate that Jesus never came to this world or if He did He died in a mythical realm.

Mostly agree.

They even go onto say that Paul didn't even know Jesus was a human. In response Hebrews 10:5 "Therefore, when He came into this world, He said: 'Sacrifice and offering You did not desire, But a body You have prepared for Me.'" But a body You have prepared for Me. A human body.

Have you READ Hebrews?

10:4. For it is impossible that with the blood of oxen and goats sin should be taken away.

Paul's talking about the Jewish practice of killing cattle & livestock to attone for sins. He's saying that Jesus' sacrifice does this far better, but he in no way indicates Jesus was an actual person. As the video stated: he doesn't mention Pilate. He doesn't mention Gethsemane. He doesn't mention anything that would lead us to believe Jesus was an actual person.