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jascowhiz0 · Mar 12, 2007, 01:49 am

I think its taken out of context and obviously biased.

Christianity was an underground religion it its early years, so people weren't going to go public like the apostles and Christ did(or conveniently no documents talking about Jesus for 40 years) . Another thing is, after Christ died the believers thought He would come back relatively soon, but after a period of time they realized it wasn't going to be soon. So then they wrote the gospels quite a few years after Jesus left.

They float the idea that Paul thought of a completely different Christ because he never mentions Jesus's life. I was glancing through Hebrews, its not meant to recount of Jesus's life, its meant to teach what the church believes in. Most church documents probably don't even mention Jesus's life, rather what the church believes in. Paul's documents don't contradict the rest of the bible or Christianity. Now they claim other Gospels were thrown out. I was taught a reason as to why they were thrown out, but I've forgotten most of it. One reason I do remember was that they were teaching what would be heretical views to Christianity(I don't know much about Heretics, but I do know there were a lot of holes in them).

They mention Hebrews 8:4 "For if He (had been)were on earth, He would not (even have been) be a priest, since there are priests who offer the gifts according to the law:" (translation from my bible is different than the one they used) But looking through Hebrews, the quote from the context I read is basically saying that if he comes to earth he would not be a priest but something else. Or when he comes to earth he is not going to be a priest. He comes as a high priest, not a priest as Hebrews says. Whats funny is they use this quote to demonstrate that Jesus never came to this world or if He did He died in a mythical realm. They even go onto say that Paul didn't even know Jesus was a human. In response Hebrews 10:5 "Therefore, when He came into this world, He said: 'Sacrifice and offering You did not desire, But a body You have prepared for Me.'" But a body You have prepared for Me. A human body. Can't be a godly body because even the video admits he dies. Just stuff I found glancing through Hebrews. Something you might find interesting. When I went to find the Hebrews 8:4 quote the first page I opened to was Hebrews 10:5. And as I said the 8:4 quote in my bible is different from theirs.

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jascowhiz0 Looking for the exit Posts: 111	I think its taken out of context and obviously biased. Christianity was an underground religion it its early years, so people weren't going to go public like the apostles and Christ did(or conveniently no documents talking about Jesus for 40 years) . Another thing is, after Christ died the believers thought He would come back relatively soon, but after a period of time they realized it wasn't going to be soon. So then they wrote the gospels quite a few years after Jesus left. They float the idea that Paul thought of a completely different Christ because he never mentions Jesus's life. I was glancing through Hebrews, its not meant to recount of Jesus's life, its meant to teach what the church believes in. Most church documents probably don't even mention Jesus's life, rather what the church believes in. Paul's documents don't contradict the rest of the bible or Christianity. Now they claim other Gospels were thrown out. I was taught a reason as to why they were thrown out, but I've forgotten most of it. One reason I do remember was that they were teaching what would be heretical views to Christianity(I don't know much about Heretics, but I do know there were a lot of holes in them). They mention Hebrews 8:4 "For if He (had been)were on earth, He would not (even have been) be a priest, since there are priests who offer the gifts according to the law:" (translation from my bible is different than the one they used) But looking through Hebrews, the quote from the context I read is basically saying that if he comes to earth he would not be a priest but something else. Or when he comes to earth he is not going to be a priest. He comes as a high priest, not a priest as Hebrews says. Whats funny is they use this quote to demonstrate that Jesus never came to this world or if He did He died in a mythical realm. They even go onto say that Paul didn't even know Jesus was a human. In response Hebrews 10:5 "Therefore, when He came into this world, He said: 'Sacrifice and offering You did not desire, But a body You have prepared for Me.'" But a body You have prepared for Me. A human body. Can't be a godly body because even the video admits he dies. Just stuff I found glancing through Hebrews. Something you might find interesting. When I went to find the Hebrews 8:4 quote the first page I opened to was Hebrews 10:5. And as I said the 8:4 quote in my bible is different from theirs. Money can buy what you don't have.