[dilligras]

Dilli, a link to an article on this issue. What does writing your Congressman accomplish? - Homeland Stupidity

The comments were more interesting than the "article".

Quote by: Osborn F Enready Quote by: dilligras Is it really always about you in your world? Yes, unless your world is different than mine. I thought you lived here in the U.S., where individuality means something, and enumerated rights were created to back that up in law.

And you accuse ME of strawman arguments. I said you mistakenly attributed my motive for starting this thread to yourself.......individuality may indeed mean something in the US, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with this discussion.

I apologize, honestly and without embarrasment if I have wrongly misrepresented you, but, I have never seen an expression of the same from you toward me, so suffice to say who is being forthright and without deception. You can accept that as the apology it is, or not....

Well, it started out sounding like an apology..........and then came the "but".

I apologize when I recognize I have wronged someone........if you have evidence that you deserve it, produce it and recieve the apology you claim I owe......otherwise, stop making accusations without support and calling them apologies.

I don't rely on my words to paint you as I see you, to the other readers. I rely on your words to paint you as you see you to the other readers.

If that were true, I would have been unable to point to any ad hominem attacks by yourself during our "debates"............I feel certain that any cursory examination of them by any impartial reader will quickly dispel such a notion. Of course, without searching them myself, I suppose it's entirely possible that I have you confused with RickSp or Patrick Henry.

Quote by: Osborn F Enready Quote by: dilligras Second, as I have told others who make quacking sounds and then complain of my recognizing their duck-like position, It is the quacking itself that points to your indesputable duckedness, rather than the mere instance of my taking notice of them, n'est pas? You just can't accept the REALITY that there is more than left and right......thats being duped, or in denial.

Of course there's more than left or right.........there's also the middle, a place you likely have never seen, judging from your posts.

But again you construct the argument of straw, since I never mentioned there only being a left or right, but rather whether your position on the topic at hand is one that places you anywhere besides the left..........maybe you could address that, instead of making shit up about what reality I accept.

Everyone who disagrees with you, you dub a leftist. A trait common among many posters these days on internet forums, who deny the facts of what make up the political equation, and rule of law in this nation.

Wrong again (there IS something to be said for consistency, I suppose), pilgrim.......I myself take the position of the left on some topics (legalize all drugs) so, I am fully aware of the limitations of labels and have mentioned it more than once in my musings. Perhaps it is the topics we have addressed that seem to consistently place you on the left of left, and conversely, me on the right of right.

At least I don't try to deny the nature of my position as being conservative, when it is..........so who is it that is being, "forthright and without deception", eh, bunky?

Speaking of ducks: YouTube - Pirates and Emporers The link will take you to a 3minute 44 second class about why your defense of the war on terror, and Herr Bush's policy is flawed.

Sorry.........my pc's sound has crapped out on the motherboard, so I don't get much from video's right now. Frankly, it looked a bit too simplistic to be very profound.......and I don't see what it has to do with your duckedness.

Quote by: Osborn F Enready Quote by: dilligras Nooooo, sounds like another unsupported charge. Can't find the "quote" button yet? You deny calling me a leftist? Do I really need to quote that?

I deny calling you anything before you started your seemingly obligitory ad hominem attacks in this thread, yes.

From the SECOND POST in the thread:

Once again, using broad strokes, with brushes the size of Texas, to paint anyone who disagrees with THIS war, or ANY war as non-patriotic, un-American enemies of the state and its people....... Dismissing valid points, ignoring historical facts being released at an ever increasing rate via the FIA and investigative reports, in prefrence for patriotic fervor, loyalty to nation above national mission. Based in "reparations" no less..... This is one ex-service member who will not be signing any such petititon.

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From your third post:

As usual, anyone who disagrees with you is a "leftist" or liberal. Do you live with Ann Coulter, or just ride her jock as a hobby?

It should be noted that previous to that last one, I had not called anyone liberal or leftist in this thread. Nor had I mentioned Annie in any context.

So who is addressing the man rather than his position? Who is manufacturing arguments of straw? Surely, not the masterdebaters seen on these few pages.....

I know, I know.....don't call you Shirley.

Quote by: Osborn F Enready Quote by: dilligras Come now, it's obvious you've succumbed to the pressure of your lefty peers..... Look, I didn't even have to leave the post to find a quote....

Ignoring, of course, the fact that you made the accusation BEFORE I said what you quote here.

Quote by: Osborn F Enready Quote by: dilligras and remarkably remarkable in their ability to draw fire from ideologues of any stripe you forgot to say "and I am modest to."

Why would I want to claim to be a city in California? And why Modesto, of all places?


Go ahead, entertain us a bit more with this foolishness.......just don't forget your self-appointed mission to write letters.


Carry on.

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