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Quote by: phoenix_fire  Again, I find it ironic that you would use that example, Z.
Darts, I don't think you're ever going to find common ground with her, and that's the problem. Furthermore, you are both (yes both) simply repeating a memorized script for these situations and neither of you have yet to talk to the other. If you want to have a gainful conversation with her, you will have to stop seeing each other as potential converts and start talking as people. A lot of this is terminology driven. So long as one of you uses the jargon and/or phraseology of Christian or atheist apologetics, the other probably will and that is where the conversation will remain. If you want her to actually speak from outside what she thinks she's supposed to believe and say, find ways to couch your arguments in regular words. I would also suggest that you ask more questions instead of making statements. Get her to have to think through her responses more. For example, instead of saying:
try asking her how she came about her beliefs. Be interested in what she has to say, and don't assume that you're going to be the one to change her mind. |
wow, I am very impressed with your wisdom. You did an excellent job of articulating the knee responses that occur in these debates.
From the beginning I was thinking the word "concept" works better than the word "imaginary".
My efforts to have discussions on where these religious concepts come from aren't going so well. Any suggestions on how to improve my threads?