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Quote by: Boetie  Why are the Gnostics always left out of discussions. They were very close to Platos perfect other world and this world as an imperfect copy of the perfect world.
The Plato version goes against the Hebrew version as the Hebrew version has God saying that his created world is perfect. Note the created world of the Hebrews refers to the material world of which we live in.
Because this world is imperfect it would stand to reason that only an imperfect God could create an imperfect world. This reasoning makes sense and that is why the Apostle Paul warned his followers to stay away from those who reason. Was Paul referring to Gnostics?
The Adam and Eve story is also reversed. Unlike the Hebrew version in which the serpent was the bad guy the Gnostic version makes the serpent out to be the good guy and God as the bad guy and the reason God did not want Adam and Eve to eat was because he wanted them to stay ignorant. Eating the apple was man's way of escaping the darkness that the bad God put man in. |
Thank you so much for your contribution. I don't write of Gnostic ideas, because I don't know them. It is interesting you point out the paradox of a perfect God creating an imperfect reality. Evidently the Genius thinks this is because earth is place to punish Adam and Eve. I had forgotten our bible says God created a perfect place for us. This whole line of arguement reminds of a badly abused child, worshipping his parents and believing it is his fault they abuse him.
Since I am convinced the Sumerians wrote the first story very differently and the Hebrews changed it in the translation, I am not overly interested in any beliefs that come after the distortion of the Sumerian story as possible truth.
I think the scientific explanation of creation is truth. This doesn't mean there is no God, it just means the God of Abraham is not an accurate explanation of God and our being. I like Kuldeep's understand of God better.