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tnphydeaux · Oct 16, 2003, 02:11 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Waychel,)
Okay, let me rephrase then since you seem to be misunderstanding me: Thought processes and functions do not begin at conception. At conception, there are no limbs, there is no brain. Even once the fetus is in its beginning stages, it cannot THINK. That's because it is not yet a baby, it is a glob of cells that is developing into one.<hr size="1" /></blockquote> The brain is but one organ of the organism. The organism that is you was in evidence with the second cell division of you lifetime. And if you insist on attaching brain function to the right to life, know this, you are not fully functioning brain-body connection-wise until several months after your birth. This means you've chosen an arbitrary point at which you would convey right to life, and THAT IS a philosophical approach as opposed to a sceintific approach.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Waychel,)
so why should your views regulate what they choose to do to their own body?<hr size="1" /></blockquote> Rachel, I don't care what you do with your body, but you are ignoring the body of the other alive individual human being in this equation. It's going to be hard to give up the specious right to kill other innocent human beings, isn't it, because this serial killing has become so depended upon to relieve men and women of their responsibilities for their sexual behavior.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Waychel,)
I'd also rather see a woman undergo an abortion in the sanitary confines of a hospital and have that fetus go to medical science, where it may improve many lives that already exist.<hr size="1" /></blockquote> Sounds a whole lot like the 'improve the species by cannibalizing some chosen members' argument. That's chilling, Rachel.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Waychel,)
The other option is to outlaw abortion and have women give birth to fully matured babies in public restrooms, then drown them in toilets.<hr size="1" /></blockquote> Oh really?... no other possibilities, just terminate the prenatals in sanitary hospitals or drown them in toilets?

You win, Rachel, I'll not bother you further. Happy trails ... watch out for those ricocheting red herrings and strawmen you keep tossing into the discussion.

Oct 16, 2003, 02:11 am	#93 (permalink) (top)
tnphydeaux Molten Ash Posts: 63	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Waychel,) Okay, let me rephrase then since you seem to be misunderstanding me: Thought processes and functions do not begin at conception. At conception, there are no limbs, there is no brain. Even once the fetus is in its beginning stages, it cannot THINK. That's because it is not yet a baby, it is a glob of cells that is developing into one.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> The brain is but one organ of the organism. The organism that is you was in evidence with the second cell division of you lifetime. And if you insist on attaching brain function to the right to life, know this, you are not fully functioning brain-body connection-wise until several months after your birth. This means you've chosen an arbitrary point at which you would convey right to life, and THAT IS a philosophical approach as opposed to a sceintific approach. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Waychel,) so why should your views regulate what they choose to do to their own body?<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Rachel, I don't care what you do with your body, but you are ignoring the body of the other alive individual human being in this equation. It's going to be hard to give up the specious right to kill other innocent human beings, isn't it, because this serial killing has become so depended upon to relieve men and women of their responsibilities for their sexual behavior. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Waychel,) I'd also rather see a woman undergo an abortion in the sanitary confines of a hospital and have that fetus go to medical science, where it may improve many lives that already exist.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Sounds a whole lot like the 'improve the species by cannibalizing some chosen members' argument. That's chilling, Rachel. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Waychel,) The other option is to outlaw abortion and have women give birth to fully matured babies in public restrooms, then drown them in toilets.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Oh really?... no other possibilities, just terminate the prenatals in sanitary hospitals or drown them in toilets? You win, Rachel, I'll not bother you further. Happy trails ... watch out for those ricocheting red herrings and strawmen you keep tossing into the discussion.