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Quote by: loser  IF you come to the conclusion that if the conception that created you would have been aborted, that your life would have also been aborted, then you MUST concede that life begins at conception. If it didn't, then destroying YOUR embryo would have no effect on YOUR life. |
The events that were put into motion to create the Big Bang would give the woman getting the abortion no real choice. It would only look to our insignificant minds that she was making a choice because we could not relate all that transpired everywhere to cause all events to happen leading up to her apparent choice. Based upon prior conditions, she had no choice. All life was determined to begin and end many trillions of years before mankind even existed.
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Definition: Where the word "men" is used, it is meant to relate to all humans.
This question usually has a religious basis. I suppose the issue here depends upon if you believe in God or not. God is all powerful and all knowing, throughout all time. Therefore if everything is predetermined, any abortion or miscarriage that does happen, was supposed to happen.
On the same basis, if you believe in Christianity or the Quran, each person is predestined to either go to heaven or hell, and there is nothing the individual can do about it.
The only words ever written by God to be passed down were in the form of stone tablets as the Ten Commandments, everything else has been written by men, not God. Why would God ever need to speak twice? Does God make mistakes that need to be adjusted now and then? Think what you like.
To control any other person regarding ANY action based solely upon a religious viewpoint, is like a King on a remote island saying you will give your first born son to him for his sexual pleasure because that is just how it has always been and it's written in the sacred rules of the land. Just because there are ancient texts alluding to some state of enlightenment, doesn't mean it is based upon legitimate factual information, no matter how beautifully or intelligently it was written.
If you can't believe fully in the Ten Commandments, you shouldn't be giving any theological value to the books written by men when the books themselves are based upon the Ten Commandments.
Reading the Ten Commandments carefully disavows the Bible and the Quran as legitimate representations of Gods words.
So if you want to prevent a woman from seeking an abortion, use reasons other than religion.
Religion shall continue to be interpreted with no concrete details until we can go back in time and actually observe history, or God chooses to change predestination for some reason, perhaps the Ten Commandments. The interpretor shall always have their own agenda, usually based upon human weaknesses; power and money.
The weak of mind will tend to follow other people whom seem to know more than themselves. The Ten Commandments prohibits this, a sin. "Thou shalt not speak in the Lords name". But, men that desire admiration from other men will continue to convince other men to follow their teachings, or the teachings they were taught, not because it is true.
Despite the Ten Commandments. Despite the words of God. Men prefer to listen to men rather than figuring out for themselves the extensive ramifications of the Ten Commandments. The Bible doesn't put the fear of God into the reader, it puts the fears produced by man into the reader. Nowhere in the Ten Commandments does it allude to a Heaven or Hell. Men decieving men to acquire power and prestige.
My relationship with God is not open to any other person's interpretation. Why is yours?