[notworthabean]

thats irrelevant to citizenship and or voting and hence has no effect on the ability to change the country in any way they see fit.

But it is relevant to the "real" members of those nations, because, if history is any guide, in about 10 years they'll realize how many non-nation members there are in their countries and return to their bloody past. That was what we are talking about and that is what you need to get through your thick skulls. It is a very rare nation that just lets people come in and take over.

thats not what were talking about, democracy does mean the people of the country, no matter their ethnicity or religion decide who represents them in the country and decide what they want for the country

not i means the citizens. You can live in a country and never become a citizen.

until the arab members of the country become big enough to demand changes, which is about 15 years from now. already steps taken by israel to keep it a jewish state are being called undemocratic. and reminds everyone of aparteid south africa

a lot can happen in 15 years, esp. over there

or quite refreshing, its the same in many parts of europe

depressing because I am pro-Blair, I am not sure why a guy named "red ken" getting re-elected with the support of Muslims who preach violence in their mosques and who’s young support imposing sharia law is "refreshing" unless your, well lacking in brain function.

besides the point, im saying if the people decide to also make spanish an official language, then itll be done.

well if the nations representatives want it really. We aren't a direct democracy ya know.

[b]cubans are only big in florida, the vast majority of hispanic do indeed vote as a bloc. as we seen in the recent immigration demonstrations and elections in many states. you bringing up cubans is evidence enough that you dont even know of any other factions.

1) the point was cubans are powerful

2) Hispanics do not vote in a bloc, at least not like blacks and Jews, not all Hispanics were in those marches, and more importantly even those who were in them for easier immigration aren't for making Spanish an official language or making Cuba a member of nato.

3) Sure I do, there’s Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Guatemalans, Panamanians, some have been here longer then others, some have deep and undying loyalties to the country they came from, other do not, their kids and grand kids will undoubtedly feel stronger ties to the US then whatever country their parents came from.

pakistan is a non-nato ally, so stranger things have happened. Also communism has nothing to do with being a member of nato, if an islamic dictatorship can become an ally, so can cuba.

what are you smoking?

lets just say he wont be raping anyone soon? BURN!

how would you know this?

p.s. what’s with the idiotic "BURN" and "pwnt"? are you a 15 year old counterstrike player?