[The_Genius]

Quote by: rez I will admit, I am not well educated about Zionism and Arab hatred so I may be a little confused. I see no other reason why Jews would want to claim Israel as home, other then for religious reasons. If you claim the land is not for religious reasons, then how will owning a piece of land stop antisemitism?

But Orthodox / religious are actually against it. :)

The funny thing is when I claimed that Zionism and the Jewish faith were one in the same, Mr. Genius decided to tell me how they were not.

Not all Jews are Zionists, but most Zionists are Jews.

Israel is a democracy and Islam a Theocracy. Obviously, a Democracy is more tolerant of religious beliefs then a Theocracy, therefore, are more willing to allow non-practicing ideals flurish.

Does "Democracy" give one the right to kill unarmed Palestinian children with tanks? It does not happen to Jewish kids in Iran. Shows how hypocritical democracy can be, tolerant theocracy can be. I think your understanding of democracy is purely based on the dictionary than reality.

Shrike, with the western mentally, would say something like this because he values life in a different way. I would compare Muslims blowing themselves up to the Japanese ritual of Seppuku, where a citizen would commit suicide to avoid falling into the enemies hands.

Shows you have never been in a situation where you had to fight in order to liberate your country from Colonists.

It will be taken as a joke because this is not how the modern world solves problems.

So you are saying, orthodox Jews are a joke?

My concern about this whole land issue deals with Islams desire for a Theocracy. The President of one of the most powerful Islamic states denying the Holocaust is a prime example of willful ignorance. When someone attributes personal beliefs with truth I become turned off. When women can not be treated as equals to men, I become turned off and unwilling to sympathize.

Show me proof that 6 million Jews died. Can you? No....

Europeans also died in the Holocaust, not just Jews. That's what Iranian President implied.