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Old Jan 21, 2007, 03:16 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
Keith Hamburger
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Wow those liberatarian answers seem excessive to me. Kind of like a bible thumber who thinks the bible provides the absolute answer to all our problems. I can't read through the whole list, because the answers seem so knee jerk on some kind of belief, instead of well rounded.

Actually, I started to question the liberatarian judgement presented here, on the issue of prostitution. While I am in favor of legalizing prostitution, I am aware of sex slavery and do think strong measures need to be taken to protect women and children. I also think, just as beauticians and barbars and manicuriest must follow rules of cleaniess, so should prostitutes. Considering nothing but some kind of principle about freedom, seems immature to me.
Seems to me that the person who is strongest or can gather the biggest gang making decisions for everyone else is quite immature. "I'm right and if you don't agree that I'm right, I'll thump you. That will show you I'm right." That's the general impetus of most any form of government, including, and possibly especially, any form of "democracy".

The kind of belief libertarians have is that it is wrong to initiate force against your fellow human being.

What part of that do you disagree with?

What grounds do you think it is proper to initiate force? (notice the word "initiate". that doesn't mean respond to force but to use force initially)

Do you believe it is proper to initiate force because you don't agree with the way someone else lives? Perhaps their home isn't clean enough? Perhaps they don't eat the right food? What makes it your position to decide for them how to best live their life?

As to your example of barbers and beauticians ... At what point does a person fall into such a category? In some states poor black people have been arrested for braiding other people's hair for money. Do you feel this is appropriate? If not, do you feel that the only difference is whether they used their hands, rather than tools and chemicals such as scissors and shampoo? Or, should only those that use more harsh chemicals and power tools (blow dryers and electric clippers?) be regulated? And, if I'm willing to pay someone without the proper paperwork to cut my hair, what makes it your business to stop me from doing so?

For prostitutes, if I buy a woman a $100 dinner and a night on the town, and she sleeps with me one time and never sees me again, should that be illegal? Should you regulate the single woman who goes on a date with a different man each week to make sure she doesn't spread disease, without any other indication that she might do so? What makes things different if we cut out the in between stuff and I just come up with the $100 directly to a woman?

Knee-jerk ... You're right, we libertarians haven't thought through any of this stuff. That's why I have so many questions. Let's see your deep insights.

Keith


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