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Quote by: dthmstr254  However, if it were the other way around with karma and works, the person who made a genuine change late in life, after a life of felony activity, would never be able to make it to heaven because he doesn't have time. That is also utterly sick and repulsive. Anywho, God says that he will, at a point, evict a person from life before letting sin destroy the person's soul. That, on the other hand, is something called mercy that is beyond all understanding. |
Mercy is not beyond all understanding. The mercy of God you've described isn't even that amazing.
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Quote by: dthmstr254 One of the things that you forget is that anyone who is willing to give up what God had in heaven, take on mortal being, die, and take on the sins and sufferings of every person on the earth must be crazy about humans. That means that not only did he take on the sufferings of the cross, he experienced what it is to be deaf, blind, parapalegic, and (from an old thread on this site) the kid who can't move a limb without feeling pain, can't control his bladders or bowels, and has paralyzing migraines. He experienced on the cross, what it is to lose a loved one. You name the suffering, he took it on Himself on the cross. If you can find me a god that tops that kind of love, you got something. As it is, it takes unending love to do that. |
All of those unfortunate, unwilled, illnesses are God's fault. God sent his song to experience it. Wow. He could have just done it instantly.. since he's all-powerful. He didn't even have to plague our world with so much unwilled suffering, but I guess he loves screwing us over then saving the day. And wait.. Jesus did all of that, yet still the majority of people will go to Hell to suffer forever? Nice.
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Quote by: dthmstr254 It's called estimation. And taking estimates is something done in gambling situations all the time. Abortion is a gamble, and those aqre the stakes. |
You obviously didn't hear what I said.
Your above claim I spoke of clearly skewed your statistics because your statistics only spoke of those who are Christians. Since you don't have to be a Christian to enter Heaven, like you claim, then your statistics are altered and you need to readjust your "estimate".
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Quote by: dthmstr254 If we start killing all babies, because of Christian reasons, then it would be mostly Christians doing so. In 70 years, the last generations of Christians would die off. |
Wow, are you really saying only Christian fetuses would be killed? Haven't the fanatics taught you better?
Besides, once all the Christians are gone.. if your god is just, he wouldn't forever send everyone to Hell for the rest of Earth's lifespan.
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Quote by: dthmstr254 Because the chaff (Sin and all connected with it, including the sinners) must be seperated from the wheat (the souls of saved people). |
How incredibly egoistic of your God. Yeah, they all sin.. but screw the ones that don't worship me. Nice.
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Quote by: dthmstr254 Temporal Mechanics (what is possible if time travel were possible) would claim a circle. A Temporal Circle tears at the timeline, because it is an anomaly in the timeline that must be fixed. |
Firstly, we can't travel in time.. and we don't know for certain if that would even be possible in the future.
Secondly, your timeline doesn't prove a thing.. especially not that Hell is needed for the survival of our world.
A) you exist
B) you sin
C) you get obliterated from the timeline
D) you don't exist
E) you don't sin
F) you don't get obliterated from the timeline
G) Start back at A.
Why?
How is Christian mythology ANY different? How would the existence of Hell effect the timeline? How the hell is this an argument for Hell being necessary for our world's survival?
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Quote by: dthmstr254 When we get to heaven, we have made our choice. We have chosen holiness. This corruption will "Put on incorruption." |
Then you finally admit evil and sin is not a requirement of free will.
Yet.. you earlier said this..
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Quote by: dthmstr254 Ok, so I made a single aesthetic mistake, and you bite on to try and get me off topic? Not everyone is perfect |
No, you assaulted my accusations of your "figure of speech" for not knowing that is was a "figure of speech." I then told you why I made those accusations. Would rather have me never point out your mistakes? That WOULD be easier for you, now wouldn't it?