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Quote by: Lullaby Chainer  I'm not convinced. And by admitting that, you've opened a whole other set of problems.
For instance. I technically would be going to Heaven even though I'm an Atheist and even if I were to rape, torture, and molest children.. (which actually may be well justified in the Bible) I would still be going to Heaven because I was lucky enough to be brainwashed at a young age in which we are genetically coded to believe everything our parents tell us.
Now, what makes me so much more lucky than someone who happened to be brainwashed by another religion elsewhere and deconverted to Atheism? So much so that I get Heaven and he gets Hell?
That is repulsive and utterly sickening on all levels. You had better explain this one to me, cause you've really confused me. |
However, if it were the other way around with karma and works, the person who made a genuine change late in life, after a life of felony activity, would never be able to make it to heaven because he doesn't have time. That is also utterly sick and repulsive. Anywho, God says that he will, at a point, evict a person from life before letting sin destroy the person's soul. That, on the other hand, is something called mercy that is beyond all understanding.
One of the things that you forget is that anyone who is willing to give up what God had in heaven, take on mortal being, die, and take on the sins and sufferings of every person on the earth must be crazy about humans. That means that not only did he take on the sufferings of the cross, he experienced what it is to be deaf, blind, parapalegic, and (from an old thread on this site) the kid who can't move a limb without feeling pain, can't control his bladders or bowels, and has paralyzing migraines. He experienced on the cross, what it is to lose a loved one. You name the suffering, he took it on Himself on the cross. If you can find me a god that tops that kind of love, you got something. As it is, it takes unending love to do that.
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I believe your above claim screws with your statistics, now doesn't it?
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It's called estimation. And taking estimates is something done in gambling situations all the time. Abortion is a gamble, and those aqre the stakes.
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Sounds good to me. :]
But.. you just said it would be all Christians? How? What do you mean?
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If we start killing all babies, because of Christian reasons, then it would be mostly Christians doing so. In 70 years, the last generations of Christians would die off.
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So?
There's no Hell and I think the world is doing OK.
There's also no need for a Hell, and you've yet to explain why the existence of the world depends on a place that a small minority of people believe in that supposedly tortures people forever. You aren't making any sense.
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Because the chaff (Sin and all connected with it, including the sinners) must be seperated from the wheat (the souls of saved people).
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What is your timeline above proving?
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Temporal Mechanics (what is possible if time travel were possible) would claim a circle. A Temporal Circle tears at the timeline, because it is an anomaly in the timeline that must be fixed.
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Do we sin in Heaven?
Do we have free will in Heaven?
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When we get to heaven, we have made our choice. We have chosen holiness. This corruption will "Put on incorruption."
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It's a horrible figure of speech that disproves your point. I made note of that, so just get over it or think of a better figure of speech. Want me to think of a valid one for you?
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Ok, so I made a single aesthetic mistake, and you bite on to try and get me off topic? Not everyone is perfect