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Quote by: dthmstr254 Just a small part of it will support it. Listing all of them would make the post too long: For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast (Ephesians 2:8-9). When the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life (Titus 3:4-7).

I'm not convinced. And by admitting that, you've opened a whole nuther set of problems.

For instance. I technically would be going to Heaven even though I'm an Atheist and even if I were to rape, torture, and molest children.. (which actually may be well justified in the Bible) I would still be going to Heaven because I was lucky enough to be brainwashed at a young age in which we are genetically coded to believe everything our parents tell us.

Now, what makes me so much more lucky than someone who happened to be brainwashed by another religion elsewhere and deconverted to Atheism? So much so that I get Heaven and he gets Hell?

That is repulsive and utterly sickening on all levels. You had better explain this one to me, cause you've really confused me.

Quote by: dthmstr254 Someone earlier in the board posted that 66% of people go to hell. That means 33% go to heaven. of the one third that are saved, only a third of the people they reach will believe. That comes to about 11% chance that you are damning people to hell by aborting a child. BIMI reports that about 15% of professing Christians are going to the mission field, which means about 5% chance that you are damning an even larger group of people, possibly even an entire nation or civilisation to hell by aborting that child.

I believe your above claim screws with your statistics, now doesn't it?

Quote by: dthmstr254 Your turn. This is too vague. WHat is FSM?

The Flying Spaghetti Monster. It's a satirical religion.

Quote by: dthmstr254 And as it dwindled, it would all be Christians, meaning that Christians would dissappear.

Sounds good to me. :]

But.. you just said it would be all Christians? How? What do you mean?

Quote by: dthmstr254 Hell is seperated from God's presence. It is not in or on the earth. It is not in the universe. It is, technically, outside of spacial dimensions.

So?

Quote by: dthmstr254 A) you exist B) you sin C) you get obliterated from the timeline D) you don't exist E) you don't sin F) you don't get obliterated from the timeline G) Start back at A. Get the point. It is impossible. If it weren't for hell, the world would fall apart.

There's no Hell and I think the world is doing OK.

There's also no need for a Hell, and you've yet to explain why the existence of the world depends on a place that a small minority of people believe in that supposedly tortures people forever. You aren't making any sense.

What is your timeline above proving?

Quote by: dthmstr254 Not a necessity, but a vicissitude of life. Pain is a result of our sin, by our activating the potentiality of evil that is the side effect of our free will. So, you want a choice, or you want to just go to heaven because you have no choice in the matter?

Do we sin in Heaven?

Do we have free will in Heaven?

Quote by: dthmstr254 Recognize a figure of speech when you see one?

It's a horrible figure of speech that disproves your point. I made note of that, so just get over it or think of a better figure of speech. Want me to think of a valid one for you?