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Old Dec 29, 2006, 11:55 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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OK, what is this thread about? Explain innate in your context. Give examples.

I'd point out that saying you are a puppet in the universe doesn't make it so. You objected to others who used the same line of reasoning to declare themselves gods of other universes. Make up your mind.
An innate wrong is something that is absolutely wrong regardless of the culture or intersubjective frame of reference. I can't give examples because there is no such thing. For instance, murder might be wrong no matter what in the cultures you mentioned, but in some tribal culture, warranted murder is often okay. And as for the so-called axiomatic right to self-determination, even your culture denies it when it employs the death penalty.

I know that saying I'm a puppet doesn't make it so. I just said that to illustrate that simply saying you have an inherent right of self-determination doesn't make it so. It's only axiomatic within your culture, although even then it's questionable because of that example I previously mentioned.

Also, I don't see why you brought up that issue of God/Gods here; it's not explicitly relevant. Ultimately, I conclude that there is no innate/absolute wrong, although some cultures may share the same wrongs; there are, however, absolute wrongs within the cultures themselves, although in the broader frame of reference those wrongs are simply subjective.

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